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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) If the Sox tank these next 2 weeks, do you think they put Quintana on the market? I bet we could get a haul from the Rangers or Red Sox. Stop it

I mean realistically... Shuck and Garcia shouldnt be starting. You replace Shuck out there with a capable OFer and this lineup looks quite a bit better.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) They will continue to make up reasons to play him instead of closing the book on his horrible Sox career It looks bad for Hahn if he gets sent down. He's the ultimate "If only" player.

Avi is a trash baseball player.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Very good defender, but unless there's something seriously wrong with Shuck's defense, I don't see the point. Shuck has started to hit well now that he's been playing. Now he's not on another team and wasn't good 3 years ago, so Hahn is likely unimpressed. But instead of hunting for a CF, they might hold sway and see how Morneau does. Because right now, DH is a far bigger deficit. Shuck is -5 in DRS. Peter Bourjos is -2 Melvin Upton is +11 3 run difference is important. But the +11 is a bigger swing. Shuck is still a negative player because of his defense and that's probably the way it's going to remain. Right now we're giving up 13 runs in the OF from 2 players. They need to minimize the bad players in the OF to 1.

Any opinions on Melvin Upton or my previous posts? I still think he's going to be the most realistic target. I'm curious though as to how much salary we can take on.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 11:38 PM) What does the supply of starting CF's look like? Exactly. The values of each are not equal. To get a cost controlled starter(even one with huge question marks like the Sox just got) is going to cost more than an OFer. Plus the names that we are talking about in here besides Blackmon are not going to command that type of package.

Kick some ass Carson

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 09:59 PM) If the Pomeranz trade is any indication of where the trade market is at, I am good with standing pat. That's for starters...is this really any surprise? I really hate when people say that crap every single year. " If this is how the trade market is...". Well guess what? Demand is high and supply is low on starting pitching. The Miller trade for example should be a good indicator. You gotta trade prospects to get good players. Breaking news.

To me this is how I see it Top option: Blackmon- As Balta is referring to it'll probably take Fulmer. Cheap option: Atleast in terms of prospects is going to be Melvin Upton. Padres will eat his salary and he's signed through next year as well. I cant believe i'm advocating for him right now but this is my favorite option. He's playing very good baseball right now.

I'll rain on the Shuck parade. So far he's worth about 5 runs surrendered right now. That's bad. Realistically you want most of your OFers at or close to 0. But right now we have 2 guys giving up about 13 runs playing in the OF.

I think the Padres is a good team to start with. You already know they'll eat cash and we wont have to give up many prospects. See how much cash they'll eat in Upton's contract for this year and next year. Allen it's possible he tanks. But I think he would be tanking in that park on both sides of the ball. He's doing quite well right now. Also there's the possibility Jon Jay is healthy before the deadline.

Here's someone people on here may not want to hear...but Melvin Upton. He's +11 in DRS. Have good years in offensive WAR and defensive.

Blackmon's defense has been significantly better than last year

Hey maybe this will be the year Rick Hahn finally gets his guy Jason Castro

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) 2nd best pitcher in the American league this season. WHAT A MEDIOCRE PLAYER. Please delete your account. He's either a troll or just stupid...maybe a combination of both

I mean it depends on what the Brewers want and what he's going to get on the open market... but there's always Jonathan Lucroy as an option.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) What is Navarro in DRS? -4. Avila is +2 In any case I think it's obvious these guys were both short term solutions and it's possible they upgrade at the deadline.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) I was talking about Garcia not Avila. Avila has been okay. Should have kept Flowers and never signed Navarro. Sox offensive explosion! Me likey Flowers is -8 in DRS....no thank you

Melky is an absolute beast on offense

benetti has a point though....Q definitely isnt in the AS game because of Wins and Losses...plus some people's disdain for advanced statistics.

Syndergaard out of the game....man

This is why I dont like tanking...how the hell is this good for baseball or Atlanta when they open their new stadium next year?

I think Hart said a few years ago they wanted to be competitive in 2017.....uh....