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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 11:14 PM) Greg's comment and someone typifying Avi's bat as serviceable are starting to scare me...the Sox pr campaign is starting to take find some buyers. I think another house bet is in order...Lemon saying Avi may outproduce Cespedes on offense would be an incredibly easy bet.

Dan Hayes had a melt down...so that was worth it

I think the team we have is pretty much going to be it on opening day.

Well hey the White Sox did save me some money. Dont have to sign up for my ticket package again.

We're all good in the outfield so no worries.

Get in there and get him

QUOTE (daggins @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) I wouldn't say Cespedes is that important, so much as ANY upgrade in the OF is. I would say those projections for Avi are pretty optimistic. Last I looked they gave Garcia a really nice boost on offense. They projected him worse on defense than last year which is hard to imagine.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) it is a discussion question. There is no right or wrong answer, but I wanted to see how important people think Cespedes actually is. In a perfect world we would have a team that atleast broke even on defense across the board. But that's obviously not going to happen. But your offense atleast has to make up for the lacking defense. We didnt have that in the outfield either. Plus it doesnt help when across the board you have some of the worst full time outfielders in baseball defensively. Just too much to overcome. I think Cespedes would help subside some of that pressure. With the defense and added runs...we could be right in the hunt. I dont expect Eaton to repeat that absolutely dismal performance last year either.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) In 2005, that was about 30 wins! That's the problem. It's pretty up in the air for how much they're worth. But I've been really conservative and been saying about 4-5 games. There's some margin for error there. I think that puts us right in the mix for a playoff spot.

That's why I asked him how does he value 30 runs. In other words...how many games do you think 30 runs sacrificed?

QUOTE (L. Ron Paultard @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) Yeah defensively, his instincts aren't that good, but athleticism, arm, aggressiveness may allow Avi to become decent RF. You ofcourse understand there's zero evidence to hang any hope concerning this right?

Cespedes saved 14 runs in LF last season. Our outfield as a whole gave up about around 30. Adam Eaton and obviously Garcia were the main contributors to that. Say by adding him in LF and switching around the OF you get close to breaking even. I dont think Eaton is going to have a repeat of 2015 defensively. What do you value 30 runs at?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 02:24 PM) His defense and speed would make up for the power...which would be coming from the infield anyways It would more than make up for it

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) Yep, they'll probably end up with Kendrick Kendrick costs a pick though which sucks for him

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) Diamondbacks? That's one. But they dont want to surrender a draft pick.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) It will not break the bank to trade for a Colorado OF at all. Those are guys who are solid/unspectacular. Even CarGo isnt some prime property. I highly doubt Blackmon will be cheap.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Jan 22, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD Hearing Sox are out on Yo and turning attention to Desmond, I wish I loved anything as much as the White Sox love signing Nats cast offs This guy said they signed him a few weeks ago. He knows nothing...Jon Snow

Prince Fielder was an obvious blunder. Doesnt matter how much he hits his defense almost always takes everything good he does on offense away.

Heh when I heard about cigarettes in the dugout that's what I thought of....smoking on the sideline before a kick lol

Here's Cespedes in the locker room according to beat writers

Lazy defensively yet was one of the better LFers according to DRS last year...how interesting

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) Why? There are other OF options still on the board. And Desmond as well, if they want another bat that badly I still think they have perhaps delusional thoughts on what he could turn into. After all they were the ones blowing smoke up our butts about how good he could possibly be only a year ago.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) He's been wrong quite a bit this off season. He has but would it surprise anyone if they went into the offseason with Garcia in the OF? I dont think so at all. Infact I expect it at this point.

If any of you are interested. Scott Merkin said on this weeks podcast that he's heard about the 3 year offer for Cespedes and other sources tell him the Sox could be done for the offseason.

I dont know if silence from the White Sox as far as interest goes is a good thing. Possibly they've decided to roll with Avi if Cespedes doesnt go their way.