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QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:19 PM) Joel Sherman and Heyman tweeting a lot about how good of a fit Cespedes would be on the Angels. Sherman has been on top of things this offseason. Ofcourse he's a good fit. He's a good fit for alot of teams. But the Angels said recently that they werent going to give out a contract like that. Seems to be suggested that they are a little spooked about those deals after the Josh Hamilton incident and Pujols.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:07 PM) I agree. People complain about not building a consistent winner but then want them to sign long term deals that willbe awful in 3-4 years. Pick a lane. I prefer the patient uild the team through prudent trades and drafts. Great. Be patient. Trade Sale,Q and Abreu. That'll require ultimate patience going through multiple years of losing and waiting for prospects.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:58 PM) I can see the direction Hahn is taking. He's incredibly patient, and that is driving a lot of fans nuts. Better he be in his job than many of us. Breathe, people. As for Ventura, can't argue with that. I mean they can only be patient for so long. Pressure is mounting now. 1 premium player left on the table and a division rival got better. Apparently now the media is starting to jump onboard with the fans.

With everything that's been said. It does seem that the pressure is mounting for the White Sox to do something. Especially now that Upton signed with Detroit.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) Bruce Levine reporting the White Sox have offered Cespedes a 3-year $27M contract. Probably won't get it done. Ok that sounds like bull

The people complaining about the Sox not signing him is a little silly. But being mad about him going to the Tigers is not. Division rivals getting better isnt a good thing.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:02 PM) Gotta figure some of these guys will pass on theirs (Ian Kennedy needs an opt out? Really? He's going to get more than that?) Right...but it seems to be clear now you have to have it in the contract somewhere. Just to give the player the option.

The question is would Cespedes want an opt out? Upton is younger. Not sure Cespedes would opt out getting well into his 30s.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) Problem is that might be all it takes to break up this Sox core if they struggle this year. Hopefully it's with a new general manager if that happens

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) Free agency has really sucked as a Sox fan so far Well it's essentially been non existent for them

Hey we finally get a good view of what a contract for Cespedes will look like

Oh good...great news

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) Ah gotcha. Wasn't sure what type of context the conversation was in or anything like that. FWIW, I'm really starting to think the Sox end up with close to nothing before the end of the season. I just tried to cover all the bases we've been discussing on here. The 3 year deal rumor,Fowler,Cespedes and Garcia in the OF. The most important one atleast for me was the by Friday he signs expectation. I just want this to be over with. But obviously if he does get the contract he originally wanted i dont think it'll be from us.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 07:33 PM) I'm confused by this. Why doesn't he want to see Fowler sign with the Sox? Also, what did he say about them & Cespedes? Same defensive concerns that most of us have. Plus he's not sure he can play a corner outfield spot. Before I got on the phone to the station he was saying he didnt expect Cespedes to get any kind of pay cut. Doesnt think anyone offering a 1,2,3 year deal gets him.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 07:02 PM) I mean he isn't lying. He's not saying they're title contenders or anything, just improved. I don't think anyone can say they aren't. Well he did say this "In fact, I believe they can be a playoff team as we sit in the cold on Jan. 18." I dont think that's true

Better than 4th. But apparently he spoke to Adam Dunn and Magglio Ordonez about Garcia. Let's just say that he doesnt expect Garcia to get any better than he is now. They were talking about Fowler for a bit on his contract. They think his contract demands drop pretty significantly(apparently it was at 60 million)

I just spoke with Bowden. He said he doesnt want to see Fowler on the White Sox. Plus if we dont sign Cespedes or Upton your probably finishing last in the division.

Just for what it's worth Jim Bowden thinks that Cespedes signs by/on Friday.

If anybody wants to read something that will make you roll your eyes read Scott Merkin's latest article. It seems that he refuses to listen to projections or past metrics when judging players/teams. Atleast that's from what I gather.

I voted for Avi. Rick Hahn will pay for that mistake during the deadline when we have to trade one of our better prospects.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 11:35 PM) True, but it's hard to imagine them raising it a lot after last season. One would have to assume season ticket sales are down from last year. As we heard so often, they went after Melky due to an increase in ticket sales. I think the ticket sales would increase quite a bit if they made another somewhat significant addition.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 11:22 PM) Sounds like a job for Will Venable Well he would certainly fit the "Our OF really sucks" competition that we're trying to have.

Keep in mind that Dan Hayes said that Brett Lawrie might be our only acquisition. Plus he was iffy on those reports too.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 11:16 PM) So Merkin and Hayes are on the same page...maybe the Sox should have seen what Davidson could do as well Shouldnt have traded Josh Phegley either. Let him start at catcher.

It's pretty interesting that Scott Merkin doesnt seem to evaluate any of the facts about Garcia. Instead he just keeps repeating "1st full year".