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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 05:41 PM) I lived through the Jack Morris era, and I never remember thinking Hall of Fame pitcher. I think he makes the Hall of Really Good. He did a lot of really good things, but I never saw him as a dominant or top notch pitcher. I was really little when he was pitching so I never got to see him first hand.But the numbers plus that seems to be the testimony of plenty of people support why he shouldnt have been voted in. Hall of Very Good isnt a bad thing....but everytime I say that people act like I'm saying he is one of the worst players to play the game.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 05:14 PM) I gotcha. I do and don't agree with that though. I understand the flaws of the stat, but I also do believe that there are some players out there who just know how to win. I mean, if guy consistently gets 15+ wins a season, he's probably more good than lucky. But yeah, I do understand your point and W shouldn't be the sole basis for argument unless you are above that 300 number. If a guy has worse numbers than the number 2 pitchers behind him combined over his career what does that tell you?

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 04:49 PM) He also had 169 complete games, three world series rings (1 times world series MVP), started three all-star games, was the undisputed ace on most of his teams, something like 500 consecutive starts without missing a turn into the rotation, all while spending the majority of his time pitching in a hitters paradise. Thats all fine and dandy...he still shouldnt have made it and thankfully he didnt

Great news....glad I got to see this day....also glad I dont have to hear about Jack Morris anymore

The Cubs not signing him would be hilarious....basically the only thing those fans had going for them these last few months

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 05:00 PM) Could just be a case of finding out if his price is really that high. You also never know how far a good impression can go. Maybe we can have Shingo and Iguchi stop by. Maybe we want to enter a bidding war, too. I'd be surprised, though. I wouldnt be surprised at all

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 7, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) What's stupid is that two of the best seasons Morris had came in his late 30s in 1991 & 1992, when the PED had already begun. So he's not consistent at all. Yeah I was going to say...the argument is neither consistent or intelligent. Its just plain stupid.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 3, 2014 -> 05:52 PM) Thomas-less ballot: https://twitter.com/RRepoz/status/419252914310217728 Turned in a ballot with 9 names. No room for Frank. Old guy, by the way. Retired a few years ago. As far as I can tell, Frank is at 101/112- 90.2% Vote for Jack Morris but not Thomas....alllllrighttty then

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 04:47 PM) I would like to know more about the results of that physical. What was the medical issue? Balfour's numbers were better in 2013 than Reed's. I like Jones but a proven veteran closer wouldn't be such a bad thing. Something with his arm. But he has had 2 doctors clear him. Would anybody be surprised if Baltimore just simply changed their minds?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 03:22 PM) Wasn't he about to get a 3 year deal? Even if he has to take slightly less money, a multi-year deal makes that awfully tough. I thought it was a 2 year deal

Sure and then flip him mid season

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) People are actually offended by that? Yeesh. Alot of people have thin skin when it comes to stuff like that....personally I got a little chuckle out of it

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 02:39 PM) I'd agree if I had any confidence in Leesman or SantRod. Heck, I've been following Santos religiously ever since the Javy trade. His horrible adjustment to AAA, after finally showing a tiny semblance of control in AA, has me worried that he'll never throw strikes consistently enough. Needs to happen soon for him. That's what I was getting at....not many options. But there are a few in the free agent market.

Eric O'Flaherty? Last year he had a GB percentage in at 60 something Funny thing is he was on the list with guess who? Downs and Lindstrom http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/2014...ree-agents.html

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 02:05 PM) Good signing. Veal just seemed nervous last year. Wouldn't mind giving him another shot. He should have been nervous....he would walk someone on 4 pitches easily.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 01:23 PM) With Veal I am guessing 2012 was the fluke, and not the rest of his sucky career. Yeah I agree with this. Not a fan of Veal....would rather go with someone else(not that there are many options).

That's a very reasonable contract

I like the guy on mlbtraderumors complaining about this because he is old.

Welp there is our LH reliever

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 18, 2013 -> 09:12 AM) This guy thinks Maddux will be the only one to get in. http://baseballpastandpresent.com/2013/12/...ction-forecast/ Personally, Frank is already a Hall of Famer. It's just a matter of time. So I'm hoping this guy is right, just to show how flawed the process is now. If Maddux is the only one to get in, it will force a change. It just has to. Yeah I read that too...pretty ridiculous. Also getting tired of people I talk to trying constantly convince me that Jack Morris should be in the HOF.

I expect alteast 1 more arm to be be signed in the bullpen. Wouldnt mind Crain back on a incentive laden deal.

Fleecing Towers is our new offseason strategy lol

Well that was surprising....apparently trading with the Diamondbacks has been no problem for Rick

David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 7m #Braves are the "mystery team" that's been talking with Gavin Floyd. Believed to be close to a deal, but not finalized yet. https://twitter.com/ajcbraves

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2013 -> 08:11 AM) That is the agent talking. Maybe but I wouldnt be surprised if that was actually true