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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:50 PM) Yeah we are Marlins, aren't we? Same record, has to be the same philosophy right? Good post....doesnt make sense at all what some people are suggesting. Just have to wait for tomorrow.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:42 PM) In the Sox situation where they have few prospects to build with and few veteran players other teams covet it would be to their advantage to have as much payroll flexibility as possible heading into the offseason. As was stated earlier in this thread, cash is king. Which is why the White Sox in all their trades so far have not been getting any prospects in return and just dumping salary right?

Matt Mosley ‏@mattmosley 6m I'm hearing the Rangers aren't optimistic about landing Rios. But it's certainly worth a try. White Sox asking for too much. https://twitter.com/mattmosley Oh no the White Sox are looking for people in return!

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:36 PM) Again, he's a RF with a .427 slugging percentage. He's not getting younger, and he's not necessarily a great clubhouse guy. The clubhouse thing was debunked by Jon Heyman about 2 weeks ago. Just people continue to ignore it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) The last couple months, Rios hasn't been all that productive. I think if it is a dump, it would be very similar to the time the got rid of Carlos Lee. You have to count what they do with the freed up funds as part of the return. Best case scenerio, what does Rios net you this winter or at the next deadline? For a team that probably won't comtend next year, is that better than the added financial flexibility? The point is to add both prospects and financial flexibility aka what they have been doing in all their trades so far. The White Sox are not forced to do anything right now.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) Sure. They have his replacement in AAA, and that is $17 million that could be spent on other players. I wonder if Hahn tried setting teams up before the deadline, knowing all along they would take salary relief but asking for the moon so teams would think he wouldn't give him up without a huge return. That would be fine if the player we were giving up was playing poorly. As much as I want to see Garcia up on this team...I'm going to be displeased if its just because we did a salary dump.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:19 PM) What are you talking about? I'm saying that pulling him back off waivers because you think you can get more for him in the off-season is a serious risk. And there's obviously a lot more to it than letting a productive bat walk; it's a significant salary dump as well. You said let him walk. I'm saying thats silly and goes against what Rick Hahn talked about right after the trade deadline. Really it doesnt match up at all with their whole philosophy so far.

Remember when Hahn said we dont need to make anymore trades unless it makes sense and improves the team. Does that sound like letting Rios go for salary relief?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:13 PM) I'm not sold on the idea that Rios is going to generate a lot of interest in the off season trade market. That's highly speculative for a corner outfielder hitting .270 who will probably wind up with about 15 HR's and plenty of personal baggage. Let him walk, Rick. We dont know what we could get for him so let a productive bat and outfielder for nothing? Thats not going to happen. This is almost the same thing as making a trade for the sake of making it as some were suggesting before the trade deadline.

Everyone can forget about Odor....I have him rated as the number 1 prospect in Texas's system. High upside and tearing it up since his promotion.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 04:59 PM) Wow, Hahn shooting for a lot in Pitcher Martin Perez, Pitcher Luke Jackson and Infielder Rougned Odor. Hope this mini 3 game win streak isn't making the Sox brass think we are contenders next year and want to keep Rios. Perez is a high price. Luke Jackson however is not.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:13 PM) The Rangers being crazy in what they gave up for Garza didn't help with regards to expectations Yep and they completely screwed themselves if they dont make the playoffs

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) I'm fine with the Peavy trade, but a few weeks ago, we were all excited to have the best starter, reliever and outfielder on the market. Only ending up with Garcia, 3 lower level guys and future considerations is not what any of us had in mind. No but the returns were also pretty unrealistic that we were thinking of

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:09 PM) You know damn well he's going to go on a tear now. Probably have another 6 hit game tonight. Fine with me...he's playing for us so no harm done

Glad its over now so Rios can get this off his mind and continue to work

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:04 PM) This is silly. We either need several new bats or several players to really increase production, but our pitching WAR this year is third in baseball. The rotation is really good and it looks like we now have more MLB-ready starters than we have rotation spots. No reason to tear down entirely when the team is this good. I'm sure we're trying to be ready for a playoff charge in 2015 Great post Jake...It almost sounds like nobody has been listening to Rick Hahn or refusing to believe him. Pretty clear he likes this rotation and wants to compete ASAP.

and the Texas Rangers once again completely failed in adding a bat

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I don't think it would be dumb at all. If some team wants to take on his 12.5 mil, the Sox can lose games with or without him. Without getting talent back to save money for a good player. Yeah that doesnt sound smart at all and probably wont happen for that reason.

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 25s A hour left until the deadline. Moving Rios would free up another $18 million. The White Sox have established they won't eat salary. https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:03 PM) It will shock me if Rangers don't do anything. Apparently Schierholtz isnt going anywhere

I'm good with keeping Rios

Rick Hahn when asked if Garcia was joining immediately sounded like he was going to say if someone was traded he would have. But kind of steered off and said all the positions are filled up.

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:24 PM) In theory: with the money they saved with the Peavy deal, the Sox can now eat money in a Rios, and Ramirez, trade right? yes and Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 2m Rick Hahn said has had conversations w/ other teams but no urgency to make more deals unless they make sense. Still think Rios goes. https://twitter.com/DanHayesCSN

Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo 6s Asked D-Backs GM Kevin Towers if he came close on Jake Peavy, "Guess not." https://twitter.com/nickcafardo Screw you Towers

I love how all the baseball guys are talking about how this is great for Detroit....look what they gave up!