Baron

I replied to Ken and told him that this is all under this assumption that the Sox want to do a full rebuild. To which I told him that probably wont happen. He replied yep. So this is all imagination land at this point. Not going to happen.

Alex f***ing Rios

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 09:04 PM) Hey all you playoff contenders out there. This RF who went 5-5 with 2 SBs is very available. Best offer wins. Best offer who isnt giving us a bunch of mediocre prospects wins

Good lord Rios

Rios is the only player to have 4 hits off Verlander

Well that slump is over

QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 07:58 PM) Rios 2-2 Please have a few good weeks so we can get something useful for your ass. Did he do something bad to your family?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) Next year is pretty much a lost cause as well. There just is not enough offensive talent on this team to compete. Rios is not a leader, he is a good player but is very influenced by his environment and would definitely benefit from being a guy outside of the spotlight. PK is gone at the end of the year. Just too many holes to fill and not enough players to fill them. I think they should move Peavy, Santiago, Rios, Crain, Reed, De Aza and Beckham if they can get an adequate return. Re-sign Gavin to an incentive laden contract as he sits next year, sign Corey Hart to a 1 year deal, and try out guys on the mound to see what you have. In 2015 you start spending to fill holes on offense and by 2016 the farm should be producing position player talent to go with the pitching that will still be in place.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 03:54 PM) Of course it's an assumption, no can actually predict the future. But anytime you see an exceptional performance, whether very good or very bad, it is most likely that future performance will regress toward average. If the team isn't a piece or two away, how do you expect to add to it in the offseason such that it has the chance to win and increase attendance in 2014? Sorry but I hate absolute statements in sports and that sounded like one of them. I never said any of the last statement. All I said was trading Rios for marginal prospects which I think is probably what is being offered is pointless. I would rather keep him. As for money...we are going to be getting some relief very soon. So that really isnt an excuse.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 03:42 PM) I guess I just don't see the team as a piece or two away. The pitching will regress, too. While the hitting/defense shouldn't be THIS bad, the pitching shouldn't be THIS good. We've gotten a ton out of Axelrod, for example. And you still don't have anyone that can get on base. I think Konerko retires. You've still got a lot of money tied up in Dunn that you can't re-allocate, an Rios too if we keep him. If we had $40-50m to add to payroll, I'd agree, but I guess we just don't agree on what this group is capable of. Also, I'm not talking about tearing it down completely, I'm just talking about punting 2014. All that good pitching will still be here in 2015, with the exception of Peavy (who could still be here but I'd like to trade as well). I think that Rios' return would have more 2015 value than Rios, AND you get to reallocate his salary. Assumption and no one ever said this team was a piece or two away.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) Im not saying we are competent. I'm saying I fully expect the goal will be to get competent. Trading Rios fir a middle level prospect will shock me in that regard. Agreed....I think a mid level plus another low A ball prospect is all we can expect. If that ends up being the case I hope he stays.

Hell of a throw by Josh

and thats why the Cubs are where they are right now

If Lindstrom could pitch well infront of all these scouts...that would be great

Thanks for playing Hector

With the junk Hector was throwing it was only a matter of time before that happened

So much better than watching Flowers already

Speaking of the Pirates they have a scout here and its not for pitching

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 08:22 PM) How about we don't have him throw 123 pitches in a game? Hey man I'm not advocating for any of that.

Only a matter of time before Hector gets blown up here. Looks awful.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) I missed the top of the 2nd, what was the issue with Santiago/Phegley? Hector wasnt paying attention and could have picked off Soriano. But instead he threw it for a strike and Josh didnt make a throw. No point.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2013 -> 08:08 PM) I agree, I don't mind if Rios sticks around. However, when you start hearing scouts echo what many of us have said on here about the lack of hustle by players on this team, it gets frustrating. That'll be taken care of when this season ends.

Personally I dont care if they hang on to Rios. Teams dont give you what you want then screw them.

Looks like Hector doesnt feel like throwing strikes

Garza going to take a nap?