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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 4, 2017 -> 09:44 AM) I don't agree with that. I think the issue at present and maybe forever is the idea of antagonistic politics. It's not as important that good policy comes out that benefits me, it's that I benefit from my politicians actively hurting the other side. The "Lib Tears" Doctrine. Grassley's supporters, even if they are unemployed or alcoholics,, know that Grassley's not talking about them, he's talking about those other deadbeats that don't work at all and live in cities Doesn't that in fact mean they are simpletons who cannot think for themselves? If you cannot realize that comment is a general statement and not one for the lazy liberals in the metro areas; then I don't know what else you would call it.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 4, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) Grassley explains why people don’t invest: ‘Booze or women or movies’ How do the Democrats ever lose to these people? I think you have too much faith in humanity. A lot of the people you run across in life are simpletons who cannot think for themselves I'm afraid.

QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Dec 3, 2017 -> 09:54 PM) As an independent. I don’t see trump as perfect. But my problem is that most people who complain about Trump were pro Hillary. Naturally. However she was a bad candidate whether you wear red glasses , blue glasses or independent glasses. Most Bernie bros I have spoken with were more anti Hillary than trump. I could only take a Hillary voters opinion on trump with a tiny grain of salt. I do enjoy conversations with Bernie fans though. I could also respect those who are in the “they both suck” group. On a serious note, I do believe a lot of Berners either stayed home, voted 3rd party, or held their nose and voted for HRC. I can't really picture any of them crossing partisan lines and voting for Trump. Hell, a lot of people on the forum were trash talking HRC before the election. She's not that liked.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2017 -> 09:09 AM) That would make one of his troll posts worth it for the day. :lol:

QUOTE (Whitesoxin2019 @ Dec 3, 2017 -> 09:54 PM) As an independent. I don’t see trump as perfect. But my problem is that most people who complain about Trump were pro Hillary. Naturally. However she was a bad candidate whether you wear red glasses , blue glasses or independent glasses. Most Bernie bros I have spoken with were more anti Hillary than trump. I could only take a Hillary voters opinion on trump with a tiny grain of salt. I do enjoy conversations with Bernie fans though. I could also respect those who are in the “they both suck” group. You will now face the wrath of Reddy. Good luck!

If it walks like a duck...

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) My bad, I should have been more clear. I wasn't speaking in reference to you. Frankly, I didn't understand your initial comment towards CWS. CWS basically questioned why SS had to misquote and mischaracterize someone's words. You drummed it up to him arguing just to argue. I think it takes less work to just quotes someone rather than misquote them and conjure up an alternate reality, or "paraphrase" as someone put, to strike at a particular narrative. CWS and I may not agree on everything back here but I appreciate that he feels the need to police the board from people using their own political beliefs to carve their own reality. If someone says something on the record, we don't have to put words in their mouth. We can just quote them and use their actual words for them instead of playing make believe to suit an agenda. It says a lot about CWS's integrity in politics that he's willing to defend Cruz, someone he says he doesn't agree with, when someone else is lying about Cruz's words. SS has his reputation on the buster and that's all that I was going on. If anyone else makes that comment, I probably don't say s***. Edit:Balta too lmao

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 02:03 PM) Blatantly misquoting someone = okay. Questioning someone's misquoting of another = not okay. Rabbit he has every right to do that. I'm not trying to take that away from.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 12:11 PM) I have no idea what the f*** you’re getting at here. Maybe you don’t know what the word “disingenuous” actually means. Chill brah. You basically said you know Cruz's comments were 100% bulls*** yet you're going after SS for paraphrasing? To me that just screams you're trying to argue to argue, but whatever it's the buster. I don't know you personally so I won't get into the last part of your comment. I did not mean disrespect by it, I personally was just trying to call out your shenanigans.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 09:48 AM) Everyone understands we are heading into another recession again right? I just don’t get these people. How do we take advantage and get rich?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 09:34 AM) Exactly. People are discussing the changes in this tax bill come 2025 like they matter, which they wont. A new liberal tax bill will be voted in way before then. People thought Trump had no chance to win the presidency, myself included. I will never underestimate the American voter again. Now how will he spin this to his base that's it's actually good for them? Maybe they will just lap it up like the good dogs they are? Maybe Trump vetoes it because it's not his version of the bill?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 01:11 AM) Except for the fact Cruz is defending the people’s right to vote for Moore since the accusations are public knowledge, but he’s also not defending the underlying actions he’s been accused of. Obviously he’s a scumbag and I don’t agree with his thought process whatsoever, but there is definitely more logic to his comments than StrangeSox led on. As for the Franken stuff, his focus was on the hypocrisy on Democrats looking the other way on Franken. Again, there is some underlying truth to what he’s saying even if his motive is 100% partisan bulls***. There is simply no reason to spin his comments, they’re bad enough as is. Man I can't help to think you're being disingenuous af right now.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) So is every damn Dem in Congress at the moment. Follow Chris Murphy, Ted Lieu, Kamala, etc. Ain't just Mr. Opportunist You never miss an opportunity to trash on the leader of the next big dem movement. Let it go man, bow down to master Bernie.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 2, 2017 -> 09:26 AM) This seems to be what the people who like it are touting. In theory it makes sense. More people working, more jobs healthier economy. The whole tax cuts that disappear in 2026 will be offset by more people employed and no businesses in the country. It will be interesting to see if it happens. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

Damn I am shocked this passed. Remember when the ACA passed when the president had both the house and senate? Oh well, in 2018, dems will take back both and then we begin the cycle of obstructionism all over again. America, so predictable, so pathetic.

How can you vote yes on a bill that's not written?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) How cool would it be to see Trump at a press conference drink a shot of poison like that war criminal did the other day. Trump is too narcissistic to take that route.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) Pretty disgusting that Cruz is now a child molester supporter. The Democratic party not forcing out Franken though is a problem. I love that quip about him saying he doesn't want to go against the will of the Alabama voters. Here's the kicker, what if Moore came out after he wins and said, yes the allegations are true and I'm deeply sorry... I bet the voters would come up with an excuse similar to the sick sycophant evangelicals did already.

Yep Franken should have been ousted to make a point but alas, Democrats just want to protect their boy.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) sick burn lmao

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:47 AM) He's right, this charge isn't a big deal. That's the point of a plea deal. Alright so Jr. or Kushner go down... nothing really happens as Trump can claim he had a lapse in judgement?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:44 AM) you know it isn't (video at link) https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/936352215551406080 Is Ted Cruz an idiot? Better to not say anything at all.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:40 AM) Sanders does a good job of exposing the GOP's plan to use the deficit they're creating to cut Social Security (which doesn't actually contribute to the deficit) https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/936381809243377664 Bdawg still throwing blows. At least someone is fighting for the little guy.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 07:14 AM) FOX NEWS HOST TO @tedcruz: You cool working with alleged child molester Roy Moore if he's elected? CRUZ: Sure, no problem, that's up to the voters. FOX NEWS HOST: And what about alleged groper Al Franken? CRUZ: Now that's a very serious problem. I'm extremely concerned. I hope this is a joke.

They absolutely cannot pass this bill.