bozzie

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 08:36 AM) It is said that the entire coaching staff will be introduced on Tuesday... meaning, they'll announce a hitting and bench coach by then. bozzie's hearing loyal ol' Jerry's leaning toward Ivan Calderon . . . . . . hopefully someone tells him soon that Calderon's dead . . .

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) +1 As I mentioned in that thread I started, I think this war started when KW publicly threw Ozzie under the bus (to use his term) for Jim Thome not coming back. I remember thinking: what the hell just happened here? And it was during Soxfest, if I recall! But yeah, it would bubble up when Ozzie would continually play Rios/Dunn for no apparent reason and then of course with the infamous (even I was like WTF?! and I don't second-guess managers a lot) Dunn Pinch-Hits for Lilly debacle. In fact, now that I think about it with these two, I could easily see how KW rubbed the DH-by-committee in Ozzie's face, which is why Ozzie took every opportunity to rub Your Big Signing No-Hitting DH right back in his. I think the team was simply a prop in a war between these two. No wonder 2011 sucked. Ah, those that have eyes, let them see . . . . . . I believe it was bozzie himself, yours truly, who spent all summer peeling back the curtains on the Kenny/Ozzie soap opera, and the pawns Ozzie used that were Dung and Rios; it all sprang from Ozzie's demand that Jim Thome be gone'd and Mark Kotsay be DH . . . and it all manifested itself and properly so in the jettisoning of the foul-mouthed, tamale-toting Guillen. Finally. But what did bozzie get for his advocacy? Banned from this board from the overzealous mods. I forgive you, mods. I know it's not easy to recognize the seer within your midst . . .

Poor Ozzie . . . in the wake of yet another sweep at the hands of the Detroit Tigers, Ozzie took to - where else? - the media and questioned the heart of a team of which he himself carved out said heart several weeks ago. Back then, the Sox were hanging around the division lead, at one point only 3-1/2 games out, and rather than concentrate on the business at hand, Ozzie took to - where else? - the media to begin contract negotiations on an undeserved extension past the 2012 season. Of course, we're always told Ozzie's shenanigans never bother the team, and those of us who have worked in dysfunctional environments know that it's never easy to just put your head down and do your job when the bosses are fighting above you. Ozzie's grandstanding quickly manifested itself in a total collapse as the White Sox fell out of contention; perhaps fortunately so, as it appears to have sealed the venal Venezuelan's fate with Kenny Williams. Now, with the Sox 13-1/2 games out of first place, Ozzie wonders what happened to his team's heart. Boo hoo. Clearly, Sox players are tired of Ozzie's games, as they sure aren't playing to save his job. When asked about the lack of intensity, Paul Konerko, instead of apologizing, blew off Ozzie's whining, saying the Sox's freefall "goes with the territory this time of year." Nobody cares anymore, Ozzie. Good riddance.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 03:35 PM) Cooper might not want to stay. Those have been his coworkers for years now. Mark Buerhle - MLB's only 12-game winning #1 pitcher. Nice guy, good teammate, and a good pitcher. But overrated.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) While I agree with basically every last word of this, I have to wonder if you're really a Sox fan when you didn't even have the correct year of the title in there. Sure, it could have just been a mistake, but it seems less likely due to all of the effort put forth in that harangue. Also, who uses the word "compatriot" that much? Milkman, bozzie doesn't really care if you consider him a fan of the Pale Hose or not. The facts are there for all to see, compatriot.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) The Sox won the World Series in 2006? 2005, kid . . . did bozzie say 2006? No matter; let's talk baseball, knighty.

Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times published the next installment in the ongoing saga between the two 13-year-old girls playing General Manager and Manager of the Chicago White Sox, suggesting Kenny Williams has been given assurances he is returning and can pick his manager from here on out. Clearly, it won't be Ozzie Guillen. Meanwhile, the man Ozzie Guillen says is like a father to him is blowing off his emails, and Ozzie is sulking his way toward resignation that his days as White Sox manager are numbered. How sick will Ozzie be over this when he takes some time in the offseason and finally realizes he did it all to himself. Guillen could have had a job for life with Reinsdorf if he had just learned to get along with the man who was his boss. Alas, Guillen's enormous ego, somehow borne of a middling Major League career as an average fielding, undrehitting shortstop with pi55-poor command of the English language, did him in. Guillen thought his "Hispanic Jackie Gleason" act, as Daddy-Reinsdorf once called it, was endearing enough to the owner that he didn't have to answer to anyone else. Any disagreement Guillen had with Williams was immediately taken to the media, by Ozzie, or even by Oney, his no-talent free-loading son whose largest achievement in this world thus far is a series of broken-English tweets running down the man who signed the contract giving his father millions. How sweet it is now to watch Guillen squirming, realizing he is about to face the ignonimity of a public firing, and not even having the ear of Daddy as his White Sox career careens down the toilet. He did it to himself. Here's how. In 2006, when the White Sox won the World Series, Ozzie for some reason took it upon himself to fued with Frank Thomas who, though injured, was a model teammate in encouraging his compatriots to their world championship. Guillen won that pi55ing contest: at the end of the year, Thomas was gone, replaced by another future Hall of Famer, Jim Thome. But Ozzie didn't like Thome either. Despite averaging 30-something home runs and 90-plus RBIs over three years, Ozzie ran him out of town as well, claiming Kenny was not constructing a team he could manage in forcing him to put the slow-footed Konerko and Thome in the middle of the lineup. Guillen won that pi55ing contest as well: at the end of the 2009, despite his stats, despite his Hall of Fame credentials, and despite being a class teammate and inspiration to his compatriots, Thome was unceremoniously dumped by the Sox. His replacement will go down in Sox lore as the man who began Ozzie's precipitous slide toward the delicious firing we are all waiting for: Mark Kotsay. It was Ozzie who needed Kotsay, to add for some reason "speed" to an American League lineup. Nevermind that Ozzie never took it upon himself to manage a team to compete in the league in which it was competing; no, Ozzie believed he was smarter than all the other American League managers and would not stop bickering with Williams until he could preside over a team with a National League flavor. He got his wish, and Kotsay hit about .230 - with one stolen base. Ozzie's face was so red over the embarrassment of his hand-picked "speedster" that the egg all over it scrambled even before Kenny Williams added to the shame by saying "so there" to Ozzie by going out and getting a slower, fatter, lazier, and far more soft-headed Jim Thome named Adam Dung. If Ozzie had managed Dung, as he was supposed to, he may still have a job. Instead, Ozzie's ego took over again. Despite Dung clearly illustrating he needed a break from lefthanders, Ozzie continued to pencil him into the lineup, most often in the cleanup spot, though sometimes even inexplicably in the #3 spot. Then, when it was clear Dung couldn't hit anything from left or right handers, Guillen still didn't stop, claiming there was no better option on the bench or in the minor leagues than a .170 hitter. It was to be Ozzie's last dig at Williams, who had signed the bovine Dung over Ozzie's objections, and he acted like he knew it, riding it for all he was worth and playing Dung long after it was clear he should have been sitting on the bench. Clearly, Ozzie believed he would win his power struggle with Kenny Williams by embarrassing the General Manager. Mike Ditka took a similar approach right before he lost his job with the Bears, telling the press "I have to play with the cards I'm dealt, gang," while explaining the Bears' inability to compete in the 1992 season. In Ozzie's perfect world, the Sox failure this year, and indeed their inability to finish over .500 in two of the last three seasons (as let's face it, they won't this year), wouldn't have anything to do with him. It would be Kenny's lack of talent causing the failure, and what was poor Ozzie to do except make out the lineup card. Now, thanks to Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times, we know Ozzie's game is up. His consolation prize is to go manage a pi55 poor team in a market that doesn't give a crap about baseball. He bluffed with a pair of 2's and lost. He deserves everything he gets.

QUOTE (MAX @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 01:57 AM) I remember this guy from the old bears board . . . called himself brophy. He's a gem. I remember Brophy, MIN . . . I'm not Brophy . . .

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 12:11 PM) His IP doesn't match anyone previous, but I did learn he is an architect. bozzie on the brain, fellas . . . . . . But I can't make you famous. Let's talk baseball, not bozzie.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:41 AM) You're a true visionary. Much like Bozzie. Thank you, Steve. I do believe bozzie resembles that remark . . .

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:24 AM) Anytime you'd like to actually talk baseball, that'd be fine by me. My mistake, I thought Adam Dung actually played baseball. But after watching the much-balleyhooed video of him on chisox.com stroking a weak RBI single to right - which is the only highlight of late they can come up with for this guy - I can see where you might get confused.

Wow, that's a helluva welcome to the board for bozzie . . . but I can't make you famous, fellas. Let's talk baseball, not bozzie . . .

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:00 AM) Right, because your overzealous groundbreaking puns and complaining are really in need of their own special recognition? Get over yourself. Sorry, southsider, that the sentiment doesn't fit in with the idealistic idiocy Sox fans continually set themselves up with in believing in dung like Dung, but it's hard to argue with .162. As they say, "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." If only Adam Dung would take that advice once in a while . . .

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 09:51 AM) While I appreciate your enthusiasm, we already have a Dunn thread complaining about him in the last 24 hours. Merged. Thank you for your editing diligence, but frankly I really don't care where the overzealous mods decide to move bozzie's posts; the sentiment is the same.

You know you've hit a nerve with kool-aid addled Sox fans when they start writing posts bemoaning the awful puns you're using to describe the biggest bust in professional sports history, White Sox Designated (s)Hitter, Adam Dunn. They'd rather wave their cloth pennants and provide offseason positive reinforcement to an overweight and underachieving baseball player who at best was too lazy to train this past offseason and at worst is the latest casualty of MLB's adjustment to the steroid controversy. But how else than "done" and "dung" to describe a .162 hitter with 10 homers, 40 RBIs, and a wallet fat enough to fit 17 million washingtons inside of it this year alone? The talk about "Adam Dung, 2012 comeback player of the year" is as ludicrous as Ozzie's demand for an extention on his contract after two of three years at or below .500. How 'bout Dunn shows he can get to the Mendoza line first? The only story I want to read this offseason - in one sure to be filled by the Sox's marketing whitewash about how hard Dung is working toward redemption - is the pig himself standing up and saying, "I embarrassed myself, I let Chicago fans down, and I didn't deserve 1/10th of what the White Sox paid me." Only then will Dung possess the proper mindset to right the huge wrong he perpetrated on Major League Baseball this year. So until then, "done" indeed . . .

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Adam Dunn was the designated hitter in his first action on the homestand. He was booed in the first after he struck out to end the inning, leaving the bases loaded. He singled in the sixth to end an 0-for-18 streak. But the boos may have been the loudest when he struck out in the ninth inning with two men on and no outs. The fans also were upset because Guillen didn’t pinch-hit for him with left-hander Tony Sipp pitching. Dunn is hitting .037 against lefties. ‘‘I thought about it, but he’s making $14 million a year,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘He has to earn it. ‘‘The reason we brought him here is to hit with men on base. That’s a lot of money to pinch-hit for. A lot of people were blaming me. No, blame him. He didn’t do the job today.’’ For once, Ozzie displays the irreverence and fire that brought a World Series to Chicago and made fans - once - love him. As for throwing Dung under the bus, Dung has done that to himself. It has not been reported that he has done a single thing to try to break out of his slump. He is lazy. Ozzie should have called him out in July, not September. There's a difference between "accountability" and throwing someone under the bus. Finally, after six months of agony for Sox fans, White Sox management is holding Adam Dung accountable. Meanwhile, I have it on good authority that all Adam Dung is holding is a Tall Boy. He's a fat, lazy pig and played like it. Check that, even a sloppy boar could hit more than .037 against left handed pitching. He deserves anything Ozzie Guillen wants to say about him.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) As long as another injury doesn't occur, I think 2012 will be his finest season with the White Sox. There were flashes of dominance. Personally, I would like to see him finish out the season. I think pitching now would help him for next year, but they pay people a lot of money to make that determination. His "finest season with the White Sox" would be what, 8 wins or so, and less than two trips to the DL? The guy's clearly a steroid casualty. He hasn't been right since the league got tough on the gas. However, Peavy now has more time for those condescending lectures to his teammates about how they need to get tougher and start acting like winners. Yes, Jake Peavy telling teammates to get tougher . . . ah, the irony . . .

Despite Lillibridge's misfortune, this is really a blessing in disguise, as it gives Ozzie more opportunities to play Adam Dung, who has been unfairly relegated to the bench in recent weeks. Now Dung can finally show us all what he's made of!

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 11:23 AM) I would love to see Dave Martinez as our new MGR. I do believe that Ozzie will be traded to Fla in the off season Dave Martinez? The guy who passed Ryne Sandberg's wife around the Cubs' clubhouse? . . .

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 12:56 PM) bozzie- Read carefully. We don't start new threads every time you want to bash Ozzie, or Kenny, when there are already a myriad of threads on those topics to choose from. So I have yet again merged some. Stop making a new thread every time you have a new post. Check first to see if there is a thread already there on-topic, and use it. Of course, Northside. I'll keep my new new threads similar in vein to the ones you seem to want to leave there; i.e.: hey, how about all us fans give Dung a big ovation next time he comes to bat, white sox nation, woo hoo it's on, Northside . . .

He berated Kenny Williams into dumping a Hall of Famer who averaged .270, 37 home runs and 98 RBI in three years with the White Sox. And thus did Jim Thome move on. His preferred replacement was instrumental to Ozzie's mandate that the White Sox add speed to a lineup that Guillen claimed was held back by the logjam at the middle of the order caused by Paul Konerko and Thome. Handed to him on a silver platter by Williams despite his incomprehension, in 2010, White Sox Designated Hitter Mark Kotsay hit .239, with 8 home runs and 31 RBI. Kotsay stole 1 base while with the Sox. Ozzie's complete embarrassment, and Kenny's facilitation of it, did not sit well with mercurial one. In fact, Ozzie, always insecure and deservedly so after a middling Major League career and more bluster than success as a manager, was totally humiliated by the Kotsay mishap. Which of course was Williams' plan all along. For 2011, Kenny brought in what he thought was a real power hitter, Adam "Big Donkey" Dung. Dung's success and utter lack of it have been chronicled here and elsewhere throughout Chicago ad nauseum, which is usually what Dung ends up producing in White Sox fans as he waddles toward the batter's box. Rather than manage, Ozzie chose to trot Dung out, day after day, often in the most important spot in the batting order, until he could be sure Kenny's embarrassment over Dung was as acute as his over Kotsay. And there went another White Sox season. Until yesterday. That's when Dung, finally relegated to the bench where he belongs, was brought into a game situation in the ninth inning by Ozzie as a pinch hitter. The fact that Dung looks like he's shaking off 6 months worth of rust during at bats in which he has been playing everyday didn't deter Ozzie from putting him in the unenviable position of pinch hitting with the game on the line. Of course, Dung struck out. What else can he do? He was followed a couple batters later by Kenny's other big whiff of recent, Alex Rios. Rios struck out looking, which is more than what he does half the time when fly balls carry out his way. And the game was started - and ended quickly - by complete Williams bust Jake Peavy, who despite his bluster and lectures to his Sox teammates to get tougher has been more fragile than cheap china from China in the midst of putting up Cy Dung caliber numbers such as a 4.90-something ERA while struggling to stay over .500. What yesterday made clear is that Ozzie Guillen, who probably already realizes he is on the way out, will stay true to his stubborn ways and continue to try to find ways to embarrass Kenny Williams through his poor personnel decisions. What's also clear is that Ozzie Guillen is guilty of forfeiting games this season by continuing to do so. And for that, even Oney oughta run him out of town . . .

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) I"m combining three threads. We don't need a new thread every time someone else wants to b**** about the same stuff. . . . good way to keep the KoolAid flowing, Northside . . . can anyone say censorship? . . . . . . Sox fans won't be silenced. We're tired of the Kenny/Ozzie game; this year it finally went beyond mere entertainment to distraction and finally to open warfare as Ozzie used the baseball team to try to embarrass Williams. So much for being a professional. It is clear one - or both - of these guys needs to go. Ozzie's the likely candidate. The players have clearly already tuned him out, as we're in the second year of unbelievably poor starts out of the gate and complete underachievement over the 162 game season.

Indeed, just as the Adam Dung fiasco was put to bed, with a benching for the lazy, overweight, Big Donkey with a reputation of not picking up a bat in the offseason and picking up a few too many brews during road trips, Ozzie found a new toy to play with that's bound to drive Kenny Williams ever crazier than a .163 cleanup hitter. How bout a .214 cleanup hitter with 8 homers and fewer RBIs than Juan Pierre? Yep, Sox fans, that's the latest brainfart from the manager who, in today's paper, felt the need to say "there are worse guys than me out there." Yet I'm not sure even Mike Quade would resort to the sort of egomaniacal games Guillen continues to play in his endgame with Williams, and likely the Sox. No, Sox fans, Ozzie, hurt from all the criticism he has received over the past two years for presiding over subpar teams, he won't do the right thing, try to win the most games, and bat Dayan Viciedo behind Paul Konerko. Instead, Rios is the new Dunn. Is it any wonder Konerko, who was having an MVP-type season at the beginning of the year with Carlos Quentin behind him in the lineup, has seen his numbers stall after Guillen first moved Dunn, and now Rios, into the spot behind him. .214, 8 homers, 32 RBI - now THAT'S protection! This is nothing more than another attempt by Ozzie to make Kenny look bad. When he's asked why Rios is hitting cleanup, Ozzie can throw up his hands and say, "he's the best guy here to do it." It's a backhanded slap at the lack of talent given to him by Williams, and more gameplaying. Ozzie took to the newspapers today to say he would not return for the 2012 option the club has already picked up if his contract isn't extended. An extention for two years of underachieving teams? Only Ozzie - or Oney - could be so brash as to suggest it. What the Sox ought to do is let Ozzie make good on his threat to walk out without an extension, and then they won't have to pay him for 2012. That money ought to buy not only a good manager but some good talent for the field as well. Now, is there any way to get half of 2011 Dunn's salary back? . . .

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 06:23 PM) I really believe the surgery Dunn had at the beginning of the season started his downfall. Playing guys day in and day out that didn't produce probably cost us the division this year, for that Ozzie has to go. so i guess you're not a big fan of Ozzie's latest hair-brained scheme: batting Alex Rios cleanup . . .

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 02:05 PM) Taking the extra base, running hard, stolen bases, sacrifices...isn't SMALL ball, it's just good baseball. And when have the Sox done that, wolfie? Indeed the Sox have been horrendous at the fundamentals for years now, and Ozzie's solution - rather than actually taking the time with his coaching staff to teach the fundamentals - was to kiss the a55es of the Minnesota Twins so sloppily that his own team developed a complex about them. As soon as Ozzie wants to preside over "good baseball," we're all ready . . .