Bananarchy

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) People aren't going to be able to deal with a full rebuild. Just look at the facts. 2014 was a rebuilding season, how many people complained about Konerko taking the 25th spot and ruining "roster construction"? They weren't going to win, I thought people didn't care. And many who have said this season is over are complaining Jacob Turner is starting tonight. That's what you get in a rebuild. Guys like Jacob Turner starting, for years. Look at the attendance. People aren't dealing with this garbage, either. QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:57 AM) Spending 200 million for 5 years for an ace is not the way to have success. More often than not it doesn't work out. I would rather keep the one they have. If the rest of the team is cheap, you can totally overspend on an ace. You have to pick your spots, obviously, but there's still no cap.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 10:38 AM) That's only 3 years away. The sox will be looking at far longer than that with no top of the rotation starters. Unless you think rodon and Fulmer are 1 and 2 starters. I'm not convinced of that. I mean, yes and no. We don't really know what either are at this point, but it's a better situation than what happened on the north side. If the Sox draft solid fielding talent, they can trade or sign the pitching they need. It's the fielding talent we really need to grow. And if it takes anymore than three seasons, our Ace pitchers are gone anyway.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 07:02 AM) Exactly like Lester, Zobrist, Montero, Lackey, Ross, etc. Without those guys, the Cubs are still favorites in the NL Central. I don't know why we as a fanbase struggle with that. Heck, don't look at the Cubs. Look at the Astros. They have amazing young talent and are incredibly exciting. There are some lean years, obviously, but if I could go back to 2008 and replace every season since then with struggle in order to rebuild this organization the right way, I would do it. It's not the Cubs, it's the way of baseball now.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 12:15 AM) 11th and falling right now. Lose em all f***ers. I'm usually against this attitude, but beat the Cubs

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 12:10 AM) On the other side of the coin, say we don't trade Q or Sale but do send the likes of Duke, Robertson, Fraizer, Lawrie, and Melky packing. Then, yes - until 2019 you've got a tits starting rotation of: Sale, Q, Rodon, Shields, Fulmer You've got the following fixtures in place with a barren bullpen as well: Shortstop, Firstbase, Rightfield. That means you still have to fill 6 holes. DH, C, 2B, 3B, CF, LF Say you concede Collins as a DH. Fine, you're still down to filling 5 holes. Bottom line - you can't keep that rotation intact and rebuild. Sad but true. Nailed it. It's a problem of holes and timing. If you don't trade Sale, Q, their contracts will end before the parts you bring in from the rest of the fire sale reach the majors.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 11:59 PM) Think we are in lose for draft spot time now. Just don't get swept by the Cubs Get that top ten pick

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 12:03 AM) To be completely honest, if we traded Sale and Quintana, there's almost no return that wouldn't still have me much less interested in following the team for the foreseeable future. It would absolutely be a punt to a few years from now hoping that we at least walk away with a couple of guys as good as the ones we lost. That's how you rebuild. It's hard but necessary. You don't have to watch.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 09:39 PM) Look at the stats. They're ugly. Very ugly. Even so, he's not worse than JB

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:41 PM) Hammy for Lawrie. Hugwatch never ends with a trade.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:38 PM) Nice one. Barstool dude thinks if he was traded we would know by now. I'm surprised we don't know what his injury is yet. The Sox haven't said anything after all the smoke all afternoon.

Write Sox ‏@WriteSox SOURCE: Brett Lawrie fell into a vortex, and is now in an unknown dimension battling vampire wolves.

For once I'm disappointed Hawk isn't calling the game. He would go down there and check on Lawrie.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) What does that mean? It's SBNation. Who the hell knows? You and I can write for them.

Lawrie out of tonight's contest with no apparent injury.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:26 PM) I traded him to Miami in MLB the show. For Whiteside?!

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:24 PM) Part of a package that has Profar included in the return, maybe? Nah... God that would be exciting. Anderson and Profar. No, probably not.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Just by playing MLB the show I didn't see any that needed one when I was trading him. Can play third though. I'm not convinced it's a trade, but maybe he's part of a package.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:18 PM) Ah crap, I actually like Lawrie. Really hope out of everyone on the team he's one they'd hang onto. Maybe he's just not feeling well? I hope they move him, but who knows?

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:13 PM) Elaborate? If you know a guy's a sinkerball pitcher and you pound one in the dirt, how is that the opposite of bad? Great players GIDP a lot. It's more a product of bad luck. A GIDP is a groundout with a player on first. That's really it.

QUOTE (Insp @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) Why does it seem as if Sox players are hell bent on hitting into double plays as often as they can? Grounding into double plays are not characteristic of bad baseball players. Quite the opposite. Great players GIDP more than anyone else. It's not a good thing to complain about. All time leaders in GIDP

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:10 PM) No excuse for him to not be in motion there That's most likely on Robin if you believe Stoney.

Glad he's the untouchable guy right now.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) That is key to the whole thing. If you deal BOTH Q and Sale we are talking about filling multiple needs and adding much needed depth to thin farm system. On the flip side, even if you're getting the right players, half of them still won't pan out.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) Are the Sox announcers blind or just homers Stone called him out on the replay. Not sure what you're watching.

Nice play there.