Bananarchy

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) Ironically I think you can, especially now he's one year closer to free agency. Boston absolutely could make it work. Betts, Swihart, ERod, Devers and Margot and you have a deal. I think we're about one season away from really being in a position to move Sale for even money. His contract is just SO GOOD. At the same time, if you think Sale will be injured at any point during the next season, maybe it is time to unload him, but I'm thinking keeping him is worth the gamble.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:54 PM) So people who disagree with your extreme pessimism are just refusing to accept "reality"? Pessimism doesn't always equal "realism", nor does it mean your opinion is somehow more valid or correct, yet in your posts it seems like you think this is the case. 9 seasons. 1 playoff appearance. I'm afforded some pessimism. We have Chris Sale, (corrected) Carlos Rodon, and a couple of commodities that can make us very good in the future should we move them. We have a huge hole in scouting judging by the horrible position player drafting over the last 15 seasons. That's not pessimism. Pessimism is the defeatist nonsense Cubs fans have had for the better part of 10 seasons which has finally been shed by their fanbase. There is not enough to love on this White Sox team. The results speak for themselves.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:53 PM) Fair enough, but Abreu, Eaton, Q and Robertson are good pieces as well. But they have real value, as well. Abreu and Q are worth real prospects. You can get something of value for them. Sale is the wild card. You can't get a return worth Chris Sale.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) One of most garbage posts I've seen on this website in quite some time. Your inability to accept reality does you no credit. Any other organization would fire all these parts. I believe the White Sox are a better organization than one playoff appearance in 9 years. It's a shame you accept that mediocrity. Clearly you wouldn't know good baseball if it hit you over the head.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:43 PM) For someone that loves the Cubs prospects as much as you do, why discredit Rodon? I'm amazed at the lack of excitement about him. He can stay, too, obviously. I generally don't care for the position players. My thing is Sale is the only player you cannot POSSIBLY get even money for.

Fire Kenny Williams Fire Rick Hahn Fire Robin Ventura Fire most scouting Begin the recovery process with a real general manager and baseball operations team. Our current players just don't matter. None of them outside of Sale could possibly part of the "good White Sox"

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) I don't think there's any way he coaches on a 1 year deal. Even if it's just a 1 year extension, they'll add a year. Boss man is unhappy. I hope Ventura is out after this season.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) Their extension was after the 2013 season, it runs through 2016. Robin signed that extension when he had 1 year left on the deal and per the press reports I've seen he's got 1 year left on the deal again. Hence, it's contract extension time again. There is no way he gets another extension. Hahn would be ruined by that.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:03 AM) As a White Sox fan, it's not more compelling than our season. This is a special type of delusion. Our season is dead and the future isn't there. Not at all compelling.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 02:45 PM) Not a cheapie for Bryant Ho.Ly. Crap. What makes me giggle in this thread is how we are insisting on comparing Sale and Arrieta when they really have nothing to do with each other and can both win the Cy Young. Not saying they will.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:29 AM) That's fine, but almost all the evidence points to him most likely not being in on it. His stats in Sox losses vs Sox wins screams "the fix is in".

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:17 AM) Holmes is a fan. One of the few the sox have on the wcubs, I mean wscr I think it's only Holmes and Bernstein as far as White Sox fans on WSCR. Is Mully a Sox fan? I respect Holmes and enjoy some of his speculation.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:08 PM) First order of business is finding a manager. Ventura has done nothing to deserve another year I'll drink to that!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:44 PM) Luckily there is no way to notice that people at baseball games aren't paying attention... This all assumes that paying attention makes any difference as to whether or not someone who isn't a professional in the stands can catch a baseball coming off a bat.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) Or having a horrendous trade deadline They weren't going to interrupt a rebuild. The only piece they were trying to move was Castro, and no one wants him. It's crazy there's a chance he's not on the postseason lineup.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) Not at all coincidental. When we go to Sox game, I actually watch 90+% of the pitches. My wife probably watches half, if that. The rest of the time she is watching: Her phone Ads on the scoreboard Her phone Woman in the next section over with a bad haircut Her phone The left fielder's ass Her phone The Diet Pepsi vendor This is anecdotal evidence and in no way demonstrates a valid trend. My neighbor owns a Ferrari. That must mean everyone's neighbor owns a Ferrari.

Good stuff. Glad the MLB is being a bit more proactive on this.

Really good discussion about the Cubs starting pitching problems on the Score. Play in Game Arrieta Game 1 - Lester Game 2 - BAD

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) He stands next to Joe Maddon. That should make him a clone. Why do so many people think this way? Look at your places of employment and look at the better employees and their assistants. Are there assistants just like them? Hell no. Dave Martinez has interview countless times for a managerial job, including the TB Rays where, if he was Maddon's clone, would have been the perfect place for him to start his managerial career. He never gets the job. Why? Anyone who thinks Robin lacks emotion would quickly realize he is the Tazmanian Devil compared to Dave Martinez, who is basically Harold Baines personality wise. No self respecting GM would hire Robin Ventura over Dave Martinez.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) Bryant just hit another incredibly cheap homer with the wind. He's putting up monster numbers at Wrigley this year, as he is an absolute monster with the wind blowing out due to the loft he gets. Reds bullpen has been awful vs the Cubs this year. God, he's special. Like Abreu special.

Let's hope Shark doesn't take our offer after this crapstorm season.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) Regarding futility of Robin ... until there's an obvious choice to replace him maybe the Sox should keep him another year. I mean does anybody really want a replacement of Dave Martinez, Alomar, Buddy Bell? These are the 3 we'd probably get as our leading candidates. I'd take Gardy right now but the Sox really don't have any good options out there. If Robin gets canned I'd be OK with a one-year deal for Ripken or Thome or somebody like that waiting until somebody good gets fired and emerges. I know you guys get mad at me for suggesting oldies, but what about Leyland for a one-year deal or LaRussa for one year or even Lasorda one year? I would take Dave Martinez in a heartbeat. They should have taken him the last time around.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) As you can see in the PHT thread it seems like the SCORE feels the need to pound home the White Sox mistakes (Tannehill and Abbatacola) If you listen to that station you would believe the cubs were flawless and a lock for the world series and the White Sox were 35 games under. The mistakes are so awful at this point. While there is a lot of bad luck, baseball on the south side has been rough for some time and the Score is the White Sox network, so they're forced to talk about it.

QUOTE (RegionSox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) I made the mistake today of turning on 670 and catching some of Joe Cowley. Wow, he really can't let go of the past. I caught at least one reference to Don Cooper as the snitch. Also, his advice to Sox fans was to buy a Cubs hat. He should go back to Pittsburgh Remember when he disgraced himself and had to shut down his personal twitter account?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) My fault, didn't mean to go all AustinIllini How dare you use numbers to back up your argument?