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    MLB cheating scandal

    in The Diamond Club

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    Just now, TaylorStSox said:

    Here's another fun one: During Lance Armstrong's reign of TDF championships, 87% of the top 10 Tour De France finishers all test positive at some point. That's 61 out of 70. 

    This may be the best single argument as to why we don't vacate championships. The fact is, one team got caught cheating, but it's fairly clear a number of teams are cheating in kind.

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    MLB cheating scandal

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    18 minutes ago, greg775 said:

    How come Houston gets to keep its WS trophy? Blatant cheating and the Altuve thing is crazy. It's obvious he was hiding something under that jersey, totally obvious.

    Vacating trophies is a very bad idea. It doesn't make sense in college and it doesn't make sense in the pros. You can't unring the bell, it's done.

    MLB cheating scandal

    in The Diamond Club

    Posted · Edited by Eloy Jiménez

    41 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    You don't find that fair contests of skill are more entertaining than rigged ones? 

    If I wanted something where one side was going to win based on something decided behind the scenes rather than the skill of the people involved, I could go be a wrestling fan. 

    You're on the right track, but it's worse. The major sports leagues (even with baseball being a little different) are monopolies sanctioned by the government. If the game is rigged, there's no reason to sanction the monopoly any longer. The MLB answers to Congress answers to us. 

    STAR WARS Everything

    in SLaM

    Posted · Edited by Eloy Jiménez

    The Rise of Skywalker is trash. 

    In retrospect, they should have let Rian Johnson write the whole thing. TLJ was divisive because Rian Johnson tried new things. The Abrams episodes were both significantly weaker films that did little. Cheap emotional moments, inexplicable resurrections, and trivial scavenger hunts damn Episode IX to the trash heap.

    Would you extend Nick Madrigal? For how much?

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    43 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    The problem is McCann isn't part of the core and is likely to be traded since he doesn’t want to stick around as a backup.

    Lopez, Cease, Kopech and Giolito are separate issues, but time has shown the return on investment with younger position players works out more often than not, at least with the very top prospects in MILB.

    Madrigal and his agent shouldn’t sign for anything less than $32.5-35 million.  They just guaranteed Robert another $50 million in addition to his original deal, so he’s at $76 million without even setting foot on a big league field.  Not to mention that was a 16% increase on the deal Eloy Jimenez just inked.

    So the White Sox have shattered records two years in row...they’ve also “pulled” (a rising tide floats all boats) Madrigal’s expected deal into the low to mid $30’s in the process.

     

    Honestly, if he's under contract, I don't care what he "wants". If Giolito wants him to catch, he's not going anywhere.

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    Would you extend Nick Madrigal? For how much?

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said:

    I disagree due to his complete lack of power.  I mentioned him already but remember Jeremy Reed?  He had slightly better minor league numbers than Madrigal and he busted big time.

    http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?ID=6708

    I think there's no reason to argue about this, because the definition of bust is so loose. For some, "bust" means "not a superstar". Realistically, "bust" means a bad pick.

    His ceiling is high, so he won't, IMO, be a bad pick, but the question is if he'll be great.

    Would you extend Nick Madrigal? For how much?

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    2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

    I don't think I'd classify him as someone with high bust potential; just by the definition of a bust.

    Madrigal has the highest floor of almost every single prospect in baseball - he's an elite defender and base runner who is never over matched at the plate. His ceiling is obviously also limited much more than other elite prospects. I don't think he has much bust potential at all, but the main purpose the Sox do deals like this is for a huge potential reward for the organization - I don't think Madrigal has that type of reward upside.

    That said, I think he's one of the most sure fire big league players this organization has ever had as a prospect.

    I like this assessment. He's not your prototypical "best fielder on a champion" player. 

    Good thing Yoan Moncada is. Eloy might be. Robert should be.

    Good time to be a Sox fan. 

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