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Looked at winter league stats for the Dominican league for the heck of it. Some ex white sox players tore up the Dominican winter league. The batting leading in 2008 was Mr. Pablo Ozuna, with a robust .390 average. The batting leader in 2009 was Timo Perez, with a .356 average. ....Fernando Tatis Sr. hit .338 and .294 in those years, respectively.

Stopped after reading #2. Sigh

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 06:08 PM) https://twitter.com/HayesNBCS/status/919335527056154624 Not AZ fall League, but Eloy highlights Man that kid has light tower power

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 07:32 PM) I think you trade anyone in all of baseball for the right offer, but the right offer rarely comes forward. Good point. You probably don't get the right offer for avi and abreu honestly.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Did you read my post? I offered a story to back up my point and I said I understood why they might trade the two this winter. I also said I disagree with it because of their intangibles and tangibles. I consider that a good message board post. I feel honored so many of you rate all my posts. Hardly anybody else gets each post rated. Many on here don't respond at all to what I'm saying and they blast me for not responding to all points on other posts. Again I am honored so many of you comment on my posts but not what's in my posts. Just either say I'm a troll or live in my own little world. Very wild greg brings this out. Can't people just comment on what's IN my posts? I feel a lot of my points are worth discussion not just tossing aside saying "troll" or frankly worse. Are Abreu and Avi's intangibles worth anything or not?? I say yes and they'd be valuable on our next contender. What intangibles does Avi bring? I don't value intangibles very much. I agree abreu is a great clubhouse leader. But I think you sell high on him and avi if you get the right offer.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 14, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) Do you at least agree with me that the trading has to stop at some point? When do you want to finally win? Trade anybody with value. Abreu, anderson, avi, leury, yolmer. Ship them all out. Stockpile all the prospects you can.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) Guys, we're in the midst of Cub dynasty. Cubs over the Dodgers to reach the WS. Book it. Don't know how many games yet. your schtick is golden man. Don't know how you do it.

I want the cubs to win so I can party at sluggers and the cubby bear Saturday

2-3 with a walk for seby. My guy! I'm excited about a future Zack Collins/Seby Zavala platoon at C. Not completely sold that Collins will be able to hit lefties. His stats against them are quite ugly.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 05:27 PM) I wonder how Joe is doing with his workout regimen.... Last time he successfully completed his workout regime he came up with the nickname "HoT FiRe" when his endorphins were at their peak. I'd imagine we can expect a nickname or two of that magnitude by the end of the regimen.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) 200 mil = 20 tens So tens of tens. Smdh.

QUOTE (Quin @ Oct 10, 2017 -> 11:02 PM) - Cutting up jerseys to get his way - Tried to fight opposing teams - DrakeGate And there's more. I like Sale and appreciate what he did on the South Side, but it's easy to dislike him. Meanwhile Quintana pitches for the damn Cubs and you've got people pulling for him because he was essentially the heir to Mark Buehrle So the only players people like on this board are prospects and a cubs player? Cmon folks...

So let's say this guy may have made 8 mil in his career. Do you honestly think we don't aim to double his wealth as opposed to making a mere 300k? I can't think of any example where a player who has made as little as he has so far taking such a monster pay cut. It isn't happening unless there is a handshake deal in place

It's a shame we decided to trade Chris Sale and rebuild. Some of us fans hate losing this much and would rather see a fringe playoff team that may get to the wild card game and then get beaten down when Sale starts it

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) You guys all love the Sale trade. A small percentage of us Sox fans think Sale and Q were a pretty potent 1-2 to head a pitching rotation and only a lousy manager in Robin prevented some pretty good success. We had some pretty good ballplayers on paper during the Sale/Q era. Hopefully the Sale trade will fuel a nice rebuild; we shall see. Ready to eat some crow greg?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 10:24 PM) My question is this- will a more VALUABLE player ever be traded? Basically the best pitcher in the game who is lefty, in his prime, locked up on a ridiculously cheap deal. Has the bar forever been set? Will a team ever have to offer more than the #1 position prospect and the arguably best pitching prospect? I feel like this deal may never be eclipsed based on value, right or wrong. Was the bar set low or high? We offered the future #1 prospect for James shields

They really need a handshake deal with him to promise a big future contract

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 1, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) There is plenty of reason for them to "tank" next year, but not to this extent. A top 10 pick gives them protection for the following offseason, and that offseason is going to be a hell of a lot more important for them in the long run than this offseason. They will not be investing in much of anything as far as free agents go this year, but I could absolutely see the purse strings open up quite a bit following 2018. They are looking at maybe $40 million in commitments beyond the 2018 season, and that's if they keep everyone they currently have. They could easily trade Shields ($2 million buyout), Jones ($4.65 mill option, $1.25 mill buyout), and maybe Abreu (~$13 million) and Avisail (~$7 mill), while Rodon may not get the number I figured for him ($6 mill). Their payroll was like $150 million just a few years ago (B-R shows $170 million, but I don't recall the kickbacks from other teams, and that number seems high). They'll have money to spend. The Sox have been 26-27 in their last 53 games. Add in Kopech and eloy, and thus team competes for the 2nd wild card next year.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 1, 2017 -> 10:22 AM) Sigh, last game. Bummer. More importantly, it's Hawk's last game. One of the reasons I plugged the cable back into my TV this year was to hear Hawk call games in his last season. I got tired of the Hawkisms and his chronic complaining of the umps years ago but I respect the f*** out if his White Sox fandom and am lucky enough to have been there the whole way since he started calling games for the Sox. I consider myself to be a very lucky Sox fan. One more time today Hawk, let all the Hawkisms fly!!! Awe hell, do what you've always wanted to do and let a few cuss words out, f*** it! and go Hawk! He will be back next year

Sign Gooch to coach and get Ohtani!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 11:31 PM) Man this is bad bad news. He could be out til summertime. It's sad how pitchers nowadays just can't avoid surgery. This game is brutal on the pitchers' arms. PTATC why all the injuries compared to the 60s and 70s and 80s? Baseball's are heavier now compared to back then.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 08:26 PM) The draft position comment was great. Whatd he say?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) Do I do it? Yeah I'm doing it. Anyway, counting on Rodon to contribute to the next White Sox competitive team right now is a gamble. Hopefully between Fulmer and Rodon we can at least get 1 starting pitcher out of those 2 drafts. I wonder if Rodon might be able to pull things together out of the bullpen, that slider might be really effective in short bursts. Lolll thank you. DA brings up my one wrong prediction on abreu anytime I best him in an argument. Payback.

Sox are going Ohtani

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) That's the thing though...they had the draft position to take both and took neither. It just goes to show that it isn't necessarily whether you choose 1 or 3, you may end up getting the player you wanted anyway. The Sox claim they had Collins as their #1 prospect two years ago and got him at 11. Yeah, I don't buy the Collins thing. Maybe they meant #1 given their draft position, but if they had the #1 pick, they wouldn't be picking him.