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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) Didn't you hear? JR is cheap and won't spend a dime! This whole "rebuild" is really just to line is pockets. It has nothing to do with there needing to be actual worthwhile free agents to spend money on, 100% JR. Never understood this theory. JR has proven before that he will spend. 2007 Sox had a very big payroll. He splooged on Albert Belle that one year. I think JR will spend if it means a championship. Im also in the boat that the rebuild started with the drake laroche guys getting the boot. Sale and Eaton were the worst during that. I think Hahn convinced JR that they needed to go. With those two guys gone, Hahn was able to convince JR that they might as well go full rebuild. The returns from sale and eaton probably didn't hurt with convincing JR.

These wins are really hurting. Hopefully it ends with an overpay by some team for avi

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 08:28 PM) Not quite. Lineup isn't good enough yet unless Eloy is in it and Robert is in it. You didn't list a catcher. We have none good enough and Leury and Nicky frankly aren't playoff caliber starting players. The bullpen is so bad it's beyond description. Starters Rodon (hurt) and Giolito and Lopez are great but again, Rodon is hurt and two starters aren't enough. Team would have to do a lot of work roster wise to win next year. Forgot about catcher. Tim Anderson will be the catcher

Pathetic showing. Really disappointed in Rutherford this season

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) Wait, when did Soxtalk get that kind of money? Must be the new mods popularity. My presence here has raised the valuation of soxtalk tenfold

This team looks good enough to compete for the WC or division next year. Indiana have some stats who are aging. Never know what happens in baseball. Sox will also have Kopech and eloy at some point. Rodon/Kopech/Lopez/giolito/ shields or guerrero or Stephens or Adams 1B abreu 2B moncada SS TA/leury 3b Davidson/nicky/yolmer DH delmonico/davidson/abreu RF avi CF leury/engel LF nicky/eloy C: TA/Kevin smith Supersubs yolmer/leury Bullpen - wing it. I think this team will be a pleasant surprise and the Sox very May well have a chance to compete.

Rick Hahn 's nickname is college wasn't Slick Rick for nothing. I expect him to pull out all the tricks in the book, legal or not, to ink Otani. I won't rule out a handshake deal.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) And over those two "mediocre" seasons fangraphs still valued him at $40M. He made less than half that. Good point. I looked it up and his 2015 season was better than I remembered. His war regressed every year up until this year, though. 2014: 5.3 war 2015: 3.2 war 2016: 1.8 war I'm not signing Jose after he has this great year. Chances are he regresses. Give him another year to prove himself before a long term contract. Of you are reading this Hahn, don't give him the aforementioned contract that pays him up to 20m a year.

The Jose lovefest had reached new heights. You get lamented if you don't think Jose should get 20 mil a year.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 12:09 PM) There it is folks. Let's be real. He isn't worth that much. An aging DH isn't that valuable. The contract Southside posted is more reasonable. 2018- $10m 2019- $14m 2020- $18m 2021- $18m option ($3m buyout)

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 11:29 AM) 5 years $75M is what I think he asks for paid as follows $20M $20M $15M $10M $10M Jose can pack his bags if he asks for that. One great year shouldn't overshadow the last 2 mediocre years. He was a middle of the road 1st basemen who can't field his position. Factor his age into that. No way Jose.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 12:27 AM) Man you are mean. Jose Abreu is on a roll. I love watching him hit. You guys can give me all the advanced stats you want and I'll still say I love Jose Abreu's production. Can you tell me how you remember Jose producing when the Sox were in the playoff hunt?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 10:01 PM) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...=Career&t=b .858 OPS against teams over 500 I meant the other way around.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 09:55 PM) gonna keep throwing that team dependent strawman out there to feel good about your bad threads, huh We all know what the stats would look like. Jose doesn't hit when the Sox are trying to contend. Always hits like crap when the Sox are still in it.

Jose might be the best hitter in the league when nothing is on the line. He's just killing it. Wish I could see splits for batting when his team is above 500 vs below 500. Tried but couldn't find it.

Damnit. The Sox really need a loss here. Jose sure does play great when there is nothing on the line

His fastball has some decent movement and is around 94. Haven't seen his breaking ball but hopefully he can convert into a reliever, if he can ever hit the stroke zone

Rick Hahn sending Fulmler out there like Old Yeller. Gotta admire his commitment to the tank effort.

You trade Jose if you get fair value or slightly below. Don't sell too low. His value will be higher than it ever will be again by the end of this season. Move him to make room for nicky d and Davidson.

He has looked completely and absolutely lost so far. Time to start worrying yet? I'm sure as hell worrying about him. I know he is young, but I have a good eye for baseball and I'm not liking what I'm seeing. We have to hope he is like buxton and turns it around at SOME point.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 3, 2017 -> 07:04 PM) Lol Really want to respond to this post on there.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Sep 3, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) The Nats fans, on that forum, can't hold a candle to the people on Soxtalk. Makes one appreciate the great insight, which this site provides. Thank you, guys. Seriously. I don't take myself too seriously on here, but the knowledge of the futuresox people, the mods, and everybody on here is so impressive. I recommend this site to every big sox fan I know. This place is truly a treat for a die-hard sox fan. Thanks to all you mods and knowledgeable posters who make it great. I've learned so much about baseball from this place.

http://www.wnff.net/index.php?topic=34710.925 Some good stuff in there

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 3, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) You're referring to Benetti, right

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 3, 2017 -> 01:28 PM) The distance is seven innings since it's a doubleheader. He will go the distance*