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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) Cutting a top 10 pick 2 years into his career is not a move. Get him up to work with Coop daily out of the pen and prep to make him a reliever. Kind of a no brainer The dude is a lost cause. They are just bringing him up to bomb and get the #1 pick.

Fulmer? The sox are propelling the tank at ludicrous speed. Fulmer is straight up awful. I have absolutely no hope in him. His stuff is so mediocre and he has no control.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 12:17 PM) With your track record on player prognostication, I would watch who you call names. My track record is pretty flawless. I was right about Jose last year, but happen to be wrong this year. Aside from that, my record is top notch.

Isnt he somewhat limited to AL teams or NL teams without a 1st baseman if he insists on staying a hitter, too? Cubs have rizzo and LA has bellinger. It will be interesting to see what an AL team would do with the dh while he pitches. Put a dynamite ss or cf as the designated fielder? It will be fun.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) I agree. But I'm sure if those guys somehow are awful as they adjust to the bigs we'll have tons of excuses for them. We can point to Robin Ventura's horrific start to his career, wasn't he 2 for 50 or something like that; we can point to Avi taking many years. But let's say Lopez Giolito and Kopech are all as bad as Fulmer right now, wouldn't that be alarming? I'm already a believer that Rodon will be excellent next season. To be honest, only a dolt who has no knowledge of these prospects would predict these guys to be as bad as Fulmer. The only way I see these guys pitching like Fulmer is if they are pitching while injured. His stuff is nowhere near what those guys have. You are just conjuring up garbage hypothetical situations again, though.

Forgot Greg's all time favorite waiver acquisition, Alex Rios.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) The Kopech / Collins stuff point me on the path that the Sox want to get as many guys as feasibly ready up next year to get some of their "lumps" early so that they can truly be positioned to turn a corner in 2019 (and presumably so the front office has an idea what they have vs. don't have) as part of that process. I presume we'll see Eloy on a similar timetable as put out for Collins (presuming Eloy keeps doing his thing). In terms of Fulmer, no surprise there. I do wonder what their plan is for Seby. He is in the AFL this summer and will start in AA next year id imagine. I'm sure the Sox are looking at a platoon with the two catchers. Seby crushes lefties and Collins crushes righties.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 10:42 AM) From today's red line radio podcast, white sox dave dropped some bombs: - Sox have given up on Fulmer as a starter - Kopech on the Kris Bryant plan next year - Collins up to majors by ASB next year - Adolfo injured his hand punching wall after 3 strikeout game Always frustrating seeing a self induced injury like that. Especially hurts after the break out year kicker is having.

What I don't get about Tim Anderson is how he is so damn slow out of the batters box. It really bugs me seeing him get beaten on grounders that somebody with his speed should beat.

Anybody know how coaching works? Does each team sending a hitting and pitching coach or something?

No doubt Brooks Boyer is lobbying to have him up opening day, but I doubt Hahn budges. Kopech will not be up the first few weeks.

Glad Jose took notice of my criticism and improved. I've been saying for ages that if he loses weight his production will improve. Wah-lah, turns out I was correct. Keep it up Jose.

I will add TA and Yolmer to this thread when I'm on my computer. I'm ashamed I left them off

Any way they time it so these guys so they won't hit their innings limit right before the playoffs? I'm not saying they'll make the playoffs, but the AL central is pretty bad outside of the Indians. You never know what can happen. Eloy and Kopech will be force their way up no doubt.

Title: sox marketing technique - acquiring attractive players. Is Brook Boyer using his sway to get a great looking team? It's no secret that having good looking players can help build the female fanbase. The blackhawks had some great looking guys (sharp especially), and they were adored by the female fans. Kris Bryant is a heart throb and is a hit with the ladies. The sox have been assembling quite a good looking squad. Lets take a look at what we got. Matt Davidson and Nicky Delmonico are no brainers. Movie star looks with eyes you can get lost in. Yoan Moncada is just straight built and his hair rivals Bryce Harper's. Lucas Giolito is nothing to scoff at. Then you have news of this guy potentially making the starting rotation next year 3 of these guys were acquired in the offseason in trades. Delmonico got called up this year and Davidson finally earned play time this year. All of these spects are up and Kopech will be up next year. It's no surprise these players were traded for and/or are getting rushed up. The FO knows the value having an attractive team can have. These future sox teams will earn a very good female following. Looks sell and Brooks Boyer knows that. The Sox have stockpiled good prospects who are easy on the eyes. These future teams have the chance to get a LARGE fanbase. Edit: It translated my title for some reason and i cant change it Edit by mod: Fixed the title

Yurchak 2-2 with a 2b and 3 bb's... Hot damn

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 29, 2017 -> 11:48 PM) I suppose he's a good coach - everyone says he is. Aside from Q and Sale he hasn't had much material to work with. Still, I would be fine with some fresh blood. Of course, I would be fine with fresh blood in a lot of places, including the Front Office. Esteban Loaiza. Nuff said.

"I think the only way the smile on Mendick's face as he crossed home plate could have been bigger is if he'd been able to slide and get his uniform covered in even more dirt." Sounds like he's got about a 70 for grindiness.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 28, 2017 -> 08:59 PM) Am I crazy or does Zack Collins get a ton of days off? Word. It is his first full year playing professional ball too, though. He's a big boy too. I'm sure there is some fatigue there.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 28, 2017 -> 08:30 PM) With Hansen's height and repertoire, he reminds me of a young Roy Halladay. No, I've not been drinking. Edit: I don't expect Hansen to throw a Halladay two seamer, that thing was just wicked. Was the two seamer halladay's most dominant pitch? I thought it was a cutter, but maybe I'm just getting it confused with Loaiza that year that were duking it out for the cy young.

Sox will be better suited waiting to give Harper or Machado offers. You know KW has one of them in his sights. Pass on Stanton. Wait for Machado and Harper.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) It is worth pointing out that since abandoning the mechanics changes, Collins has really kicked it up a notch. In August Collins has hit .333/.506/.667/1.173. His K numbers have also halved as compared to July and almost 1/3 of June (14k/79pa in Aug, 27k/81pa in July, and 35k/104pa in June). He has also been working a walk in about 1 out of every 4 PAs in August (20bb/79pa). His overall average is up to .229 for the full season and .304 while at AA in the 8 games he has been there. Zavala has a 985 ops against lefties. That's going to be quite the platoon

QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 09:42 AM) With the way things have changed with the Sox I could see us outbidding everyone... I dont see either of those guys going to a team that is a non-contender though. Why would Harper come here if Wash offers close to the same and is still one of the best teams in baseball. I think Eloy and Kopech force the Sox hand next year and come up. If these young guns show what they can do, I can see it being an attractive destination for these guys. The Sox can afford to give a massive contract, and these guys get to join a team that Will be a yearly contender. Jon Lester joining cubs is a similar situation.

I was just thinking how lucky the Sox are to have one of the all time great pitching coaches. Sometimes I take it for granted that we've got him. He is one of the best, and he seems to love the south side and the organization. He will no doubt have a job with the team until he decides he wants to hang it up. How do you rate Coop currently and in terms of the all time greats? I'm really not sure the best way to rank pitching coaches. People always say hitting coaches don't have a huge impact, but I think most can agree that pitching coaches are a bit more impactful on the game. Cheers to Coop. He's the man.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) I spent 2015 and 2016 noting that the White Sox were one of the healthiest teams in the big leagues, to the point that it was almost record-breaking, and saying that no one was paying attention to it, so when they got a year with "normal" amounts of injuries people were going to be screaming about how we were snakebit by injuries that year since we weren't used to it. Proof?