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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 9, 2013 -> 10:46 PM) I'd demand to see an accurate birth certificate on Abreu by the way. I'd like the Sox's future a lot better if we had a stud catcher like KC's Sal Perez. If the Sox sign Abreu and Grandy, I wouldn't mind seeing us bring back AJP one year. I know that makes us older, but not that much. You are subbing Grandy for DeAza (trade him for whatever you can get) while waiting for the Sox's outfield prospects to develop and subbing Abreu for Paulie. If those 2 guys hit and Beckham, Lexi and A. Garcia have big seasons, you could use an AJP for a season. Phegs can be AJ's sub. Arguably, Abreu, Grandy and AJ could help this lineup. True we would get much older in one swoop, but like I said they aren't blocking anybody and the young outfielders become that much closer to being ready for the bigs. I'm talking about Mitchell, Thompson, etc. What do you think? Forget about the fact I'm adding age; think about how I'm adding bats and the age of these guys won't matter in a year or two anyway when the young guys are ready. I'd pass on McCann for now and just give it to AJ for 3-4 million a year while putting off long-range plans for a stellar catcher one more year. With AJ available and still not finished ... why not take advantage of the cost savings there?? On paper, this lineup has a fighting chance to win some of the close games we lost this season. Of course if the defense remains crap, it will not matter a bit what changes we make. DEFENSE MUST COMPLEMENT THE PITCHING!! I wouldn't be surprised if AJ juiced last year. i dont buy that jump in homeruns at that age. either way, going on 37, i expect a significant decline for a catcher. no thanks.

f***. avisail and semien aren't even playing. i wish semien would get more time... i dont care to see veterans put up good stats anymore. theres still time for somebody to blow it

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 9, 2013 -> 08:16 AM) I've heard June 8th as the date when he started his new approach. Even with the current slump he's been in, his stats from June 8th to today are as follows. .273/.372/.500 slash with 18 hrs and 51 rbis. Even with your hatred of Dunn you can't argue against those numbers. This bum could have hit .300 if he stuck with his hitting away approach. What happened to that? Too bad his wife loves those Benjamins too much to let him retire. Worst I ever saw since Alex Rios.

i think kenny just gave ozzie all he wanted that season knowing he would crash and burn. it was well known this was ozzie's preferred way of constructing the team. it really magnified how bad of a manager he was.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2013 -> 12:25 PM) What part of a roster of Juan Pierre's doesn't sound awesometacular to you? scrap city b**** scrap scrap city b****

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) None. It would take an order from Jerry to bring him back. Ozzie is pretty much unhireable cause of Castro and the other comments. and because he is a lousy manager. i have a question for you greg. do you defend ozzie's choice of getting rid of thome for mark kotsay?

this is one of the first times i will feel comfortable saying... GO CUBS GO, GO CUBS GO, HEY CHICAGO WHATAYA SAY, THE CUBS ARE GONNA WIN TODAY

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2013 -> 09:19 PM) Ozzie does seem humbled to me. I don't know if anyone would ever hire him again, but I think he would be about baseball and not about Ozzie for at least a little while now. probably just an act so he can get back into baseball. not sure anybody would hire him again. everybody saw how absolutely dreadful he was with the later sox clubs and that highly paid marlins club. he is just too damn stubborn of a manager. he refuses to acknowledge new age stats and ways of managing. i can't forgive him for giving up thome for mark freaking kotsay. thome was still productive as hell the next season. just no excuse for that.

did anybody else think hawk called the sox the "sux" right as the game ended? sure sounded like it

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 31, 2013 -> 12:13 PM) Did you say Oz ? I love Oz he was a great player and great manager. He has so much personality. He's fun not like boring old Ventura. Ozzie should manage the Sox again and hire Frank Thomas as hitting coach.If Ozzie could have stifled himself he'd have worked forever. His resume will forever include the only Chicago WS title in modern history. Odds are neither Chicago team will win another one in the next 20-50 years so he's going to be a legend a long, long time. True. It's a shame Kenny wanted Oz gone so badly and that garbage Marlins owner was too cheap and set Oz up to fail

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 31, 2013 -> 07:13 AM) Does AJP even stand a chance with a bum like Rios on the roster( The power of 2005 is much greater than the negative impact of a bum. AJ will channel his inner Oz and win multiple championships

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 30, 2013 -> 10:36 AM) My guess is around the 50-60 range. Many people will try to poke holes at his age and the fact that he isn't exactly a strikeout pitcher. I think Micah Johnson and Semien are on the bubble right now, but will crack the list depending on how they fare in AFL. Anderson will be in the 80+ range based on based, position, and his plus speed. He's averaging a strikeout and inning in AAA

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 30, 2013 -> 08:47 AM) Honestly, I think he should be anywhere in the 30 to 60 range. The only thing that really hurts his prospect value is that he doesn't have ace potential, but I seriously doubt you could find more than a handfull of SP prospects with higher floors than him. Short of injury, he will be a solid starting pitcher at the major league level and I think the odds are very good he's at least a #3 starter long-term. IMO, he should be closer to 30 than 60, but most of these sites value ceiling much higher than they do floor. Either way, Johnson proved this year he's a legit prospect and hopefully is a key part of our rotation for years to come. I dunno, with the way he is pitching at every level, i feel he can be a number 2.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Aug 30, 2013 -> 09:55 AM) Greg is Greg. I think people should utilize their ignore button instead of attempting to silence people. I mean, I think we fought a revolutionary war for that right... Lol, he's arguing about whether Greg is a troll or not. I think he has just become a parody of himself. He throws out his outlandish opinions, while completely ignoring logical arguments countering it, and then has a completely opposite and somewhat hypocritical view on another player or thing. I think greg is real, but he has just embraced how people react on his opinion and posts about Ozzie tbh.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Aug 29, 2013 -> 08:39 PM) So its cool to be an asshole to other posters and call them names now if they have a different opinion on a topic? lettuce be cereal, greg deserved that

Greg is either a troll or has brain damage. one or the other.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 08:51 PM) I agree in as much as Hawk's dismissal of "modern" statistical player evaluations is short sited and comes off as bitter old guy. However, TWTW in some manner is what most people point to when they compare someone like LeBron James to Michael Jordan (or insert your own example of hero of yesteryear to current player). They always point to Michael's will and refusal to lose as the thing that separates him from everyone. Bill Russell had TWTW. Wilt Chamberlain did not. Really, how is it acceptable for ex-jocks and broadcasters to constantly say things like that, but Hawk's TWTW is the subject of ridicule? And i would call people who try to use "TWTW" to compare lebron and MJ morons. lebron has "TWTW"

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 24, 2013 -> 12:20 PM) LOSE 15 in a row WHITE SOX! BAD JUJU! BAAAAD JUJU!!! How can anybody want the sox to lose games? I'm rooting for them no matter what. go ozzie

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 11:14 PM) I would have loved to have him back the final year. I don't think many White Sox fans on this board would have been happy about that. Perhaps Jerry would have let Ozzie play out his contract despite the fighting with Kenny. I'd have been happy with that. I'm thinking the Sox front office did handstands in joy when Ozzie started negotiating with Miami. So I don't understand people blasting Ozzie for signing with Miami when those people wanted him gone, anyway. What was he doing well in his final years as the manager? please, tell me. I really have no idea why you would want him back aside from 2005. If any other manager pulled the numerous crap he pulled, you would hate him. hence, why pretty much everybody hated him during the final years...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 11:53 PM) Yeah, I won't sob if he doesn't come back. He's been a lousy hitter the last year and a half. But if he's truly finished, then no team will want to pick him up (except maybe the Sox for sentimental reasons, giving him one last chance to get it back). My guess is somebody decides he still has some pop in his bat and will give him a one-year deal. Maybe not. His power numbers are so far down his career may not continue a year or two more as Thome's did. You could be right. It might not have made a difference. He's portrayed as a guy who cares deeply about winning, thus I figured he might have been a reason for the team not to tank so early in the season. lol, you're a riot greg. truly.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 01:28 AM) Do you really believe he's a piece of s*** human being? Do you have evidence of that? I hope you are not basing that on supporting his children and negotiating with another team with 3 days left in a lost season. Proof of the POS claim please. i do, and i wish nothing but ill things upon him

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) You're such a joke, it's unreal. I'm convinced you're just an 05 bandwagon jumper who knows nothing about baseball. either that, or a troll

I'm waiting for a popcorn worthy debate. Garpax debates usually aren't too hard. They've done a great job, and it's easy to prove.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2013 -> 04:19 PM) It gets better. "blast players in the ass" holds 2 different meanings, depending on if you're talking about a 2005 white sox player or a different player

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 21, 2013 -> 04:08 PM) As far as the "quitting" issue, I don't really care that he left the team with 2-3 games to go or whatever it was. Who cares? The season was over by then anyway. So you are ok if any player or coach quits on a team during the season? Would you grill Rios or Dunn if they did that?