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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) This tells me the White Sox do NOT see Kevan Smith or Rob Brantly as likely to be successful major leaguers, even as backups. If they thought both could likely do that well, they wouldn't have gotten Sanchez. Two of the three will be in Charlotte, one will be gone. I'm guessing Smith is gone. He's older than all 3 and didn't do much in AAA last year in a hitter friendly park.
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Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/128 million Trade OF Avisail Garcia, SP Frankie Montas, SS Tim Anderson, 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier and SS Zack Cozart Reason for the trade for Reds: Anderson and Montas hurt, but that is the cost to bring in guys that have 4 years of control together. Micah and Avi really don't have a spot on this team due to bad defense/under achieving play. Could also argue that Montas could end up in the bullpen. But, this trade does give the Reds 2 top 100 prospects, a player they could fit in their OF, and a 2B that may replace Phillips. Reason for the trade for Sox: Frazier brings that middle of the lineup pop that the Sox desperately need at a premier position. Cozart is a really good glove that can hit a bit better than Saladino. Adding him to the deal makes losing Anderson a little sting out of it. The deal could also flip Avi and Thompson if Reds prefer him. Avi could platoon with LaRoche at the DH spot. CF Adam Eaton (L) LF Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu RF Justin Upton 3B Todd Frazier DH Adam LaRoche (L)/Trayce Thompson 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S) SS Zack Cozart Bench: 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), UTIL Tyler Saladino, C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), 1B Adam LaRoche (L)/OF Trayce Thompson Pitching staff is the same as it is now. Thoughts?
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Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 3m3 minutes ago Minor-league signings: JP Arencibia to Phillies, Hector Sanchez to White Sox.
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Brian Bilek @ChiSoxraBBit 26m26 minutes ago @AaronLemingNFL Signing Cespedes to nine digit contract is not a good idea for anyone so Upton IMO. They like Upton's game. Comes down to $$
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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 06:30 PM) Nightingale hasn't mentioned the Sox since in connection with Upton That's my point to GreatScott, Merkin hasn't mentioned that Sox don't want to give up picks since that next day. We've heard nothing since then.
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QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Merkin mentioned that the Sox really want to keep their draft picks. Cespedes seems like the guy they would be interested since he does not cost a draft pick. Last time Merkin said that, our own RaBBit & Nightengale mentioned that the Sox are/were interested in Upton.
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Houston and Young have really played well the last 7-8 games.
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QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) I would disagree. The Sox rarely hold big contract players on short leases. Adam Dunn is a prime example of that. LaRoche will be no different. Look how long it took Robin to bench him last year vs. LHP. Disagree. Dunn sucked his 1st year in a 4 year contract with the Sox. He was serviceable the next 3 before being traded to Oakland. Difference between LaRoche and Dunn? LaRoche is in the final year of his contract, Dunn had 3 more years, but he at least put up decent/good numbers those last 3 seasons.
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QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 10:55 AM) Was Nieto released? Signed with the Marlins
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Just wanted to say I love this forum and all types of conversations we have. Easily the best forum for Sox fans. Thank you
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) ^^^ I like that plan, but I don't understand the purpose of the Putnam trade and I really have no interest in LeMahieu. Lemahieu could be a good #2 hitter, pretty good with the glove, still young, and cheap. Fits what the Sox are doing while improving their club. This move puts Sanchez in a utility role, spelling Saladino and LeMahieu when they need some rest. Putnam trade is to get Kahnle on the team. Putnam doesnt throw hard and tends to leave his splitter up, especially towards end of last season. DBacks are going for it, and need some bullpen help. Figured get a draft pick for him. QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 12:33 PM) Where did Trayce go? I don't know lol. Back to AAA, or he could be traded as well.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) If you would have asked a week ago who Ken Giles is, I wouldn't have a clue. Good season, but never cared to watch a Phillies highlight. Heard Luhnow this week say he expected Appel to pitch for the Astros in 2016. Guess snot. Giles is really good. Just played for a really bad team. From the Phillies perspective, getting Velasquez, Appel, and Oberholtzer could fill out 60% of their rotation this year lol. Hellickson, Nola, Velasquez, Oberholtzer, Appel. EDIT: Scratch that. I forgot that acquired Matt Harrison and Charlie Morton
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Pretty big surprise, but OF Derek Fisher was not involved in the deal. He was replaced with SP Mark Appel. The last 3 #1 draft picks are not with their current team. Wow
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Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/128 million Trade 1B Adam LaRoche (eat 8 million), OF Avisail Garcia, SP Frankie Montas, 2B Micah Johnson, and SP Jordan Guerrero to the Rockies for OF Carlos Gonzalez and 2B D.J Lemahieu Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for their competitive B draft pick Lineup: CF Adam Eaton (L) 2B DJ Lemahieu 1B Jose Abreu LF Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF Justin Upton DH Melky Cabrera (S) 3B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S) SS Tyler Saladino Bench: 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez, OF J.B Shuck, C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), 1B/3B Mike Olt Rotation/Bullpen: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts?
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CHARLOTTE: C Kevan Smith 1B Danny Hayes (L) 2B Joey DiMichele (L) SS Tim Anderson 3B Matt Davidson OF Jason Coats OF Scott Hairston OF Jacob May (S) DH Alfredo Simon Bench: 2B Steve Lombardozzi (S) C Rob Brantly (L) OF Eudy Pina SS Leury Garcia (S) SP Frankie Montas SP Chris Beck SP Scott Carroll SP Nik Turley (L) SP Matt Heidenreich RP Peter Tago RP Miguel Chalas RP Will Lamb (L) RP Phillipe Aumont RP Tyler Barnette RP Zach Phillips (L) RP Tommy Kahnle Kahnle could be part of the bullpen with the Sox if one is traded. I believe Micah will be traded or on the Sox. BIRMINGHAM: C Omar Navarez (L) 1B Keon Barnum (L) 2B Jake Peter (L) SS Eddy Alvarez (S) 3B Trey Michalczewski (L) OF Courtney Hawkins OF Adam Engel OF Keenyn Walker (S) DH Nick Basto Bench: C Jeremy Dowdy 2B Marcus Lemon OF Brian Fletcher SP Carson Fulmer SP Tyler Danish SP James Dykstra SP Brandon Brennan SP Mark Blackmar SP Brian Clark (L) RP Robinson Leyer RP Kyle Hansen RP Nolan Sanburn RP Michael Ynoa RP Andre Wheeler (L) RP Matt Lollis RP Jake Cose WINSTON SALEM: C Brett Austin (L) 1B Cody Daily 2B Ryan Leonards SS Cleluis Rondon (S) 3B John Ziznewski OF Mason Robbins (L) OF Michael Suiter OF Louie Lechich (L) DH Zach Fish Bench: OF Michael Danner 3B Christian Stringer 2B Toby Thomas C Sean O'Connell (L) SP Jordan Guerrero (L) SP Spencer Adams SP Thad Lowry SP Luis Martinez SP Zach Thompson RP Manny Martinez RP Jefferson Olacio (L) RP Brad Goldberg RP Matt Cooper RP Ryan Riga (L) RP David Trexler RP Devon Davis (L) KANNAPOLIS: C Seby Zavala 1B Corey Zangari 2B Jake Jarvis SS Johan Cruz 3B Victor Velasquez (S) OF Antonio Rodriguez OF Jackson Glines (L) OF Frank Califano DH Sikes Orvis Bench: OF Michael Danner (L) SS Grant Massey C Casey Schroeder (S) OF Louis Silverio SP Jordan Stephens SP Yosmer Solarzano SP Chris Comito SP Brandon Quintero SP Brandon Magallones RP Connor Walsh RP Matt Ball RP Alex Katz (L) RP Danny Dopico RP Tanner Banks (L) RP Tanner Mendonca RP Johnathan Frebis
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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) So, Brett Lawrie... Good move for the Sox.
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We don't have to worry about the Cubs until we meet them in the WS. This was inevitable.
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I'm gonna go watch Sox World Series highlights now
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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 06:29 PM) This is the White Sox we are talking about whose biggest contract ever handed out was $68 million over six years. They are going to double that amount to give to Justin Upton? That just is not the White Sox. They'll have to do it eventually. Why not now?
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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:56 PM) Get rid of him. Fourth outfielder. Package him up for 2 years of the elite Todd Frazier and his .660 home stilted OPS. Or, sell high (for once!) and trade Eaton for a hitter and put Trayce in center. Or keep Eaton and put Trayce there anyway How people don't want to give this guy a chance is beyond belief. If one month of success of Trayce Thompson who hasn't had real minor league success can land a 4 WAR player in Todd Frazier, then yes you did it every single time. Yet, you wanna trade our proven lead off guy, for a guy with 100 at bats. When you mention is 660 2nd half OPS, you always forget the full body of work that he's had the last 4 seasons, just to fit your narrative. Just stop it.
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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) and again i will say i didn't think that is all true. then again i do know nothing of advance metrics. btw, is that the only source that tell these things. I put his defensive metrics at the top of the page. -24.1
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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:43 PM) Trayce seems like a perfect fit for Cincy, to be honest. They need some outfield help, especially if Bruce gets dealt. I agree. Montas, Thompson, and Micah for Frazier? Too little? Too much?
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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) really, i didn't think that was true. ... it is still was saying he played very good rf. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...r=&players=
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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:34 PM) i will again go out on a limb..... Kemp to chi. 4 yrs at 19 .... still play very good defense. still hits and still capable of hitting 25+ hrs and will cost a low pitching prospect. Padres want to do a salary dump. He was rated as the worst defensive OFer last year.