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From Keith Law Chat Mike: Astros have to make a deal for Quintana at this point no? Assuming the rays aren't trading archer there isn't another option that keeps them on their current plan. Seems like the perfect scenario for Hahn to strike gold again. Law: It's the ideal fit if they can agree on a price. If I'm Hahn, I'm focused on the bigger prospects, but definitely hoping to snag AJ Reed in the deal too.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) so what have we got in center, May? Engel? Engel and Tilson probably lead the way so far.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) Fulmer should also start the season in the minors. Rotation will look something like (without Q trade): Q, Rodon, Gonzalez, Shields, filler starter. But they could also likely deal one of Gonzalez or Q. Agreed. If we do trade Q, I could see signing guys like Derek Holland, Trevor Cahill, and letting Dylan Covey start.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:40 PM) Quintana Giolito Rodon Lopez Kopech (Fulmer? Dunning? Burdi? Hensen? They seem to be relievers now, but sometimes that can change). Plus we can add a couple more TOP draft picks in there from what we're likely to have over the next couple of years). How can you already designate Hansen, Dunning, and Fulmer as relievers? They have done nothing but start in the minors. Fulmer was great towards the end of the season in AAA too.

Melky stays with the Sox until the deadline I think. Depending on what happens with Turner, I think Frazier could be traded this off season or at the deadline. Robertson for sure should be traded before the season.

Looking at Houston, they had a damn good lineup last year and didn't make the playoffs. Yes, they improved their lineup by acquiring Beltran and Reddick, but they aren't stars, just solid role players. Kuechel and McHugh regressed and McCullers can't stay healthy. If they really want to go into the season with that rotation, by all means, but if you need pitching help , 5 games back of the division at the deadline, the price doubled for not adding Francis fricken Martes and Kyle Tucker.

J.J Schwarz and JB Bukauskas would look really good in Sox uniforms. Those are my early favorites for next year.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...-salaries.shtml The payroll for the next few years. If we trade Robertson and Frazier, we will have a payroll of around 65 million. In 2018 probably around 40 million once Melky, Lawrie and Avi gone. This is without even trading Quintana. We will have plenty of money to spend for the future in that massive FA class.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 05:30 PM) I think Jones is a very good set-up man. But for his career he has 3 saves and 18 blown saves. Now as some have noted, saves can be a misleading statistic. But saves versus blown saves may be telling. There are certain relief pictures who can be great set-up men but wilt when they come in w the game on the line. Jones may be in that category. Jones gets a blown save if he allows the tying run in the 8th or inning before the last.

I think best case scenario is Jansen picks the Dodgers or the Marlins leaving the Nats to scramble. If he picks the Marlins, Robertson can block a trade to LAD which is always risky, but drive the price up on the desperate Nats. Hell, I would not be surprised if the Marlins lose out on Jansen if they go all out on Robertson either and offer Braxton Garrett being how stupid they are. IMO, I think Robertson goes to one of these 3 teams and we get a pretty decent return.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:51 PM) Dodgers MO isn't to do some massive deal. I could see them parting with a lot of good to very good prospects though. Agreed. I don't think they do Quintana, but if Turner does sign with another team, I fully expect Frazier and Robertson to LA

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:45 PM) Q is the type of deal that could take time. Sox have a ton of leverage (even after selling Eaton / Sale). In fact, they might have more since they set such a high market for the other players (one of which might have had slightly more value, the other slightly less). At the same time, you really don't have a lot of other options out there (and none on the FA market), so you figure something will happen...but Hahn has to wait to get the right price. I'm hoping he can get Bregman and another top position prospect. IF Not Bregman, we need a bigger package, including at least two of their top position prospects plus two more good prospects. I don't think it has to take time because Astros already know who the Sox are interested prospect wise. So, it could be a Nationals situation.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) Hahn did say he'd like to hold press conferences 3 or 4 days in a row.... Halfway there but the winter meetings are basically over. Gotta think Q or Frazier is next to go. Really hope Cardinals signs Turner and Dodgers give in on Frazier and possibly Robertson.

I think something will happen tomorrow

Q to the Rockies would look to pretty. Guarantee it would be Dahl +

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 38s38 seconds ago Sources: The Rockies remain in on Mark Trumbo, as @Ken_Rosenthal said. They'd like to get a front-of-rotation-type pitcher, too, thru trade.

If you don't like this trade, you need to re-evaluate this deal. This is a fantastic deal with so much upside.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:16 PM) Still hoping the Rockies get involved... Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 38s38 seconds ago Sources: The Rockies remain in on Mark Trumbo, as @Ken_Rosenthal said. They'd like to get a front-of-rotation-type pitcher, too, thru trade. Dahl and Rodgers......

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) Sean Sears: Astro's getting close to deal for White Sox Jose Quintana. Looks him up, sees writer for Sports Mockey, X'ed out

Guys, this is a great f***ing trade. Beyond stoked.

Giolito + for Eaton according to Heyman

everything.whitesox_ ‏@everything_sox 2m2 minutes ago Fwiw I received a DM on IG AT around 2:45ish that said that the White Sox trade Eaton to the Nats for Giolito+

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) Watch Taylor be in it My thought as well.

How the f*** is Robles not in the deal

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) As much as I'd love Gioloto or Lopez back we need another young position player with star potential. I personally rather have Robles than either of them. Call me crazy. For Eaton and how cheap and control we have, we can get Robles and 2 of Giolito/Fedde/Lopez imo