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QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 12:07 PM) When was D-Rob for Robles offered? Pretty sure that was never, or D-Rob would be in a Nats uniform today. Rizzo has been calling on D-Rob for months and Hahn insisted on Robles on the return, hence why it didn't happen, Rizzo didn't budge and settled for Madson/Doolittle

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 11:03 AM) I very much disagree with this and if I were an opposing GM I would not have given up a top 100 prospect for Robertson unless the White Sox took on much of his contract. The fact that apparently Hahn wouldn't budge on D-Rob for Robles straight up and then settles for a struggling 20 year old in A ball is very puzzling, I'm not big on Rutherford at all

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) Avi/Swarzak to STL with Carson Kelly headlining the deal Not sure why everyone wants to move our 26 year old All Star RFer, he's cheap, controlled, and should be extended. Can't send a team out with 0 vets, he's needed as a mentor at the least, also think he's the long term RFer with Robert in CF by 2020 and Jimenez in LF by 2020 as well, Rutherford is a ways away and struggling

Not sure what my favorite deal is (probably the Eaton deal considering the haul of 3 major prospects), but I don't love this NYY deal, it's confusing to me, wish JR would have ate the money thus keeping Kahnle and not having to take on Clippard, I find it hard to believe D=Rob and Frazier bring back Clarkin and Polo, D-Rob should bring back a guy on the back 50 of the Top 100 at least

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) SSS I know, but I really like seeing three LatAm guys with double-digit walk rates in Nunez, Mercedes, & Alfaro. These three guys will shoot up the prospect rankings if their walk rates don't fall off too much. There was a time (13 months ago) that Alfaro was our top C prospect

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 01:14 AM) The White Sox want to trade James Shields, Derek Holland, Mike Pelfrey, and Miguel Gonzalez. They do not want to trade Carlos Rodon. They would trade Rodon if the correct offer came, but it won't. Assuming my math is correct, by setting up the rotation the way they did, other teams have 3 games to see the first 4 pitchers. They have 2 games to see Rodon. It's that simple. I like the attempt but I highly doubt CWS is able to move any of those first 4

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) I think the BoSox wind up with Frazier. They don't want Prado's contract next year and the year after. Didn't even realize that, all I've been seeing is Prado to BOS rumors

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 03:36 PM) Why not dream big on Robles! Could you imagine!? OK...enough of the dreaming. LOL I think if they don't move Kahnle at the deadline, the return would be significantly lower. A lot of his value comes from teams looking for bullpen guys who are throwing well NOW to help them NOW. He's been dominant now, but there's no guarantee he will be this good next year. He's the perfect trade deadline asset, IMO. All the guys you mentioned above are really...Hahn will be taking August 1st off this year...to sleep....until then...buy stock in Starbucks... Frazier (nets 2-3 org top 10-30 guys) has a little more value than Melky (probably nets a flier) but neither will get back a Top 100 guy or Top 10 Org guy

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) Plus, Hahn has limited himself in the pickup of former Cleveland Indians from the late 90s. Manny, Thome, and Colon? Don't forget about Ken Griffey in 2008, Jesus, had an all decade team for the 90's going

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:56 PM) I'd expect more than that since Swarzak is pitching pretty well. He could help a contender in the 7th and 8th innings. I'd like to get at least one decent prospect back So what's a potential Swarzak deal with someone? (WSH, NYY, BOS, etc.)

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) Several guys like Law have said they still view Giolito as a potential #2, and that he has actually performed better than his statistics would indicate. I think Hansen likely ends up as a reliever, but I hope I am wrong. Spencer Adams is a guy to watch out for, as I think he ends up making it as a starter. If he can maintain the fastball velocity he has shown in 2017 (92-94 mph regularly) coupled with very good control, I think he will leap over guys with flashier stuff. Guys with fringy control might be able to develop average control, but plus control is almost impossible to teach. What makes you say that? I see him as a TOR guy, Fulmer I see as almost a lock for the 'pen

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 11:55 AM) I fully expect Frazier being to traded to the Red Sox in the coming days. I just don't see Dombrowski playing poker with us when Todd is the best available 3B out there. I'm also sticking with my prediction that C.J. Chatham will be the return. Wouldn't mind this at all but I think BOS gets Prado...STL should be all over Todd

Post Q Deal Deadline Plans: Robertson, Swarzak, and Kahnle to WSH for Robles and Luzardo (Not going to happen but this would revamp WSH's pen completely while netting us another blue chip prospect) So maybe D-Rob and Swarzak to WSH for OF Soto, LHP Luzardo, and a flier (WSH majorly upgrades pen, Sox acquire top prospects and dump salary) Frazier to STL for RHPs Marco Gonzalez and Connor Jones (Dealt with STL last deadline, STL gets a veteran upcoming FA 3B and Sox get a decent return) Melky to NYY for INF Thairo Estrada (NYY gains a valuable veteran bat, Sox gain a versatile nearing MLB ready prospect) Kahnle dealt this offseason for a small, respectable prospect package In all honesty, I have a feeling D-Rob goes to WSH and we wind up with Robles somehow, Hahn won't budge, Rizzo gets desperate

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) A Gray/Alonso package seems to make a lot of sense for the Yankees at this point. Don't see Yanks going hard after a 1B after yesterday's deal for one and Bird likely to return by mid-August However they do absolutely need starting pitching and relief Q would have been perfect, maybe they take back D-Rob and/or Swarzak

QUOTE (whitesoxwinner @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:18 AM) I kind of love kenny but I don't really understand what he does for the club now anymore, also don't know how he puts his ego away to let Rick get all of the credit and make all of the deals. I think Hahn's a far superior GM than KW ever was, I don't see him picking fights with star players either Williams always had a weak system and an underachieving, slow, aging lineup At least Hahn has a direction and is truly dominating this rebuild

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) What sort of return are you expecting for Swarzak? Maybe a Flete and Rose 2.0 type deal, nothing big, probably actually ranked prospects this time however, some org's 15-30 guy or two

Can't wait to infuse a Top 3 pick in this system next year, hopefully the top college bat (Bryant-like addition)

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:21 PM) 1. Jimenez 2. Moncada 3. Giolito 4. Robert 5. Kopech 6. Dunning 7. Lopez 8. Cease 9. Flete 10. Basabe 11. Diaz 12. Rose I love Moncada, but the offense tools Jimenez has are just a level beyond. It's really much more 1a and 1b, but nod to the guy who I really cannot fathom a reasonable complaint about with the bat. I don't think many people quite understand the kind of ability currently being unlocked by.Giolito at Charlotte. Do not be fooled by the ERA, he is looking better than he has in a very long time. People are buried in the Gavin Floyd comp, and while that would definitely be nice his projections (at least to me) trend much higher than that. Firm believer he'll still be our #1. Giolito-Kopech-Lopez-Hansen-Dunning, remember we had too many LHPs? (Sale, Q, Rodon, Santiago)

What does Swarzak net back? I assume a very mediocre prospect or two

Only seen them on the road, 1-1 in Baltimore and about 0-8 at Yankee Stadium I've seen the likes of Vasquez, Garland, Erik Johnson, MiGo, and Holland pitch, always missed 56 or 49 by a day or two

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) The Barons pitching staff is surprisingly good. Beyond Kopech, who has ace potential, you have Adams, Stephens, and Guerrero all with a decent chance to become MLB starters. The White Sox pitching depth in the minors is pretty incredible right now. Sandwiched between Giolito (ace potential), Lopez (TOR potential), Fulmer, and Danish and Hansen, Dunning, Flores, and Lambert too, truly unbelievable

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 10:38 PM) Glad to see Nunez back. Hopefully he shows enough to make full season ball next year. I'm really hoping we sport a lineup like this at Kannapolis next year: 1B: Reyes 2B: Nunez SS: Curbelo 3B: Yurchak LF: Dedelow CF: Gonzalez RF: Mercedes C: Perez DH: Zangari That would be the most age appropriate we've sported in low A in years. Really hope Zangari comes back strong

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 02:09 PM) Kevin Millar was the comp for Burger a scout gave me on draft night. I'd be thrilled with that, major Millar fan

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 08:47 PM) Zavala 3-3 Is he considered a prospect in the slightest? Amazing arm behind the dish, solid defense, and now a power bat that's increasing contact, almost 24 but probably our 3rd best C prospect behind Collins and Skoug now

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) I'd like to as well but really can't see it. If any team offers a top 100 prospect for Frazier, pull the trigger immediately. I agree with that, which is why I'd like Groome or Chavis