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Remember the old Money Ball Theory of about a decade ago...anybody can be a closer?

Hope the kid invested his signing bonus wisely.

It’s not just Ozzie quit but there was a passive aggressive power struggle for several years between the front office KW and Ozzie and field level coaches. After the White Sox drafted KW in 82 Jerry promised KW’s father he would take care of his son. Jerry has never gone back on that word and I think he views KW as the primary reason for 05 title. KW has greater job security than the pope and I am certain he wants Ozzie nowhere near these impressionable young players during critical point in their development. Hahn either I would wager feels similar. I have no doubt a man loyal to a fault like JR would have a spot in the organization for Ozzie-think special instructor at spring training-just not manager.

Wonder if he’d have better command in a garter belt?

I didn’t think Giolito was going to be a 2011 Verlander, but I did think we were past this type of inconsistency.

Only if Robert produces to the level of altuve

The Houston model also includes signing a 17 year old out of Venezuela who turns into the icon/ league mvp of your team in altuve. Oh and he reupps with your team twice through his age 34 year probably for less than open market value.

No doubt I’ve seen Hahn in the media using the Robert signing as an example of how the Whitesox are committed to winning and spending money in ways the they have not in the past. keep in mind the Robert signing was what $50-52 million with tax? Harper, Machado, Arenado are going to be anywhere from 5 to 7 times that amount with an opt out-clause which will put all the Injury, risk decline on the Sox.

I only have a 20 game partial season plan but I have had for several years now. They chopped down the games from 27 to 20. I’ll probably always use some of my discretionary income on the Sox. Bottom line is I love the White Sox and I love baseball as a fan. I enjoy and appreciate watching Carlos Correa,Verlander, the fantastic batting eye of Joey Votto, Trout,Moncada play etc. The eyes on view shows how great these players are and in my opinion you can’t appreciate in a stat line. The one way I can see me losing interest or not being okay with spending money as a consumer only is if worst case scenario the bust rate of the prospects succeeds the success rate of the prospects in near term and the rebuild doesn’t take hold. i understand the logic behind the rebuild, but I am also aware of the risks of failure. Everybody is pointing to Houston and Cubs as the way this is done and the only model of success. But guess what the Giants recently won 3 titles in five years without attempting anything near this type of deconstruction. True they hit on posey, lincecum, Cain and Bumgarner, but rebuilding teams are by default going to have to hit on 1st rounders. Unfortunately all tanking does is get you a higher pick without guarantees. I think a healthy dose of skepticism in jerry,Hahn, kw brain trust is warranted based on recent years. This is actually their second rebuild. The pirates and royals have gone through decades recently 90s to 2010s of drafting in the top 10. They were not considered smart franchises by terming there losing as tanking and rebuilding. They were just considered horse.... franchises. By 2020 will be on a dozen years of this.

I understand the process of tanking, the incentives built into the cba, high draft pick, bonus pool for extended number of years, and playing with cheap young cost controlled talent, but as some other posters have stated this front office has not done anything in the past decade to build credibility they can succeed at this plan to the fan base. Who was more cost controlled than Sale & Quintana? I know now it’s different than before because of the injection of so much high end talent through trades in the system. But what else are we going to do as fans as long as Jerry Loyalty owns the team. I only hope next year they start adding some market talent which can be controlled through 23-24, arrenado, Kimbrel, pollock or similar type. Thus far I’ve been to 4 games this year and they’ve been outscored 31-6 and lost all of them needless to say.

Man sox went 55 years without a player hitting for the cycle.

Hawkins, Keon Barnum and Beck were our top 3 picks in the 2012 draft. Hopefully this year is better.

He’s actually regressed statistically from last year which didn’t seem possible speaking of the devil

I’m not sure hes the worst I can recall for the sox off the top of my head. Karkovice was brutal when he first came up as well, but had a smaller sample

Man leake is getting 17 million this year and at least 36 million more from 19-21

No Avi! Engle’s roster spot has 9 lives

1;2;3 Carson Strikes

He would be in our rotation right now

Law of averages?

Same I can see why the organization likes him. I think if he figures it out he can be a post surgery bull dog Peavy type #3. I’m really rooting for the kid.

Rocket by yoan

Not sure Carson has any fastball command at all just has to find a release and hope it gets in the zone. There’s enough life on his stuff if he does,that he can be effective.

It’s just a matter of time before the chemistry is turns bad with this much losing guys lose interest

He really struggled out of the gate in Charlotte last year too maybe he’s a reverse Alex Fernandez can only pitch in warm weather

Well at least he threw a strike