ChiSox59

Oh I definitely agree. He's been mostly bad since returning from the groin injury. He also looks very.....distracted.

This is so close to perfect. A thing of beauty. Hopefully we get the A+ lineup tomorrow with Robert in CF, AV and Pollock in the corners and Eloy at DH.

Yeah, something like 2 years $15M. $3M or so for balance of this season and $12M next season makes sense. Could even get cute and front load it so avoid potential luxury tax issues next season if Sox actually decide to add meaningful players this offseason.

Me too. Though any deal needs to include 2023 as well, at least a team option. (Now let's take cover from the usual anti-Conforto suspects)

Lol, god that man is a fucking idiot.

TA has 120 wRC+ this season. He's been frustrating with runners on this year (even more reason to keep him at lead-off), but batting him 9th is bat shit crazy.

It was first time they were 2 over since 6-4, so yeah first time since 6-3 on April 17th if they win.

At least......

With a LHP on the mound tonight, I will go with Anderson SS, AV RF, Eloy LF, Abreu 1B, Robert DH, Moncada 3B, Pollock CF, Harrison 2B, Seby C If Yaz is in there, flip Yaz and Harrison in the order. Pollock has looked surprisingly decent in CF, so I'd stick with that for now.

Joc Pederson I guess is a better option than Sheets, but he's just another DH masquerading as an awful corner OF. I really don't think he would have been a very good fit. Assuming the team is healthy, I guess you could turn Pollock into a straight weakside platoon bat to get Joc OF starts against RHP...but yeah, I just....am not that disappointed we didn't get him .

GreenSox at it again with his awful trade comps.

JBJ has an $8M buyout on a $12M mutual option for 2023 that I wasn’t aware of. There is a 0% chance he gets claimed and he’ll likely be a FA in a few days. But yeah, he’s bad. But so is Engel. I like Adam but he’s been pretty terrible this year - isn’t hitting lefties like he used to and IMO his defense has regressed since the leg injuries. But I certainly wouldn’t get rid of him if he’s not optionable.

Can JBJ still go get it in the OF? Getting DFAd today. He may be a better roster fit than Engel at this point. Engel Should be close to five years of service time, but if under it should still be able to be optioned. Problem is Bradley is still due around 4 million rest of season, which is probably far too much.

Takes two to tango. My guess is no GMs were willing to hand Hahn a difference maker, even on an expiring deal, for anyone outside the Sox top 5-6 prospects. If he wasn’t willing to Montgomery or Colas unless elite talent was coming back (right call), or the next tier of Vera, Sosa, Ramos and Rodriguez for rentals then frankly we had very little to offer. It’s been an awful 12 months for Hahn and I think he should be fired. But I’m glad we didn’t see him overpay for marginal upgrades at the deadline. This team is still plenty good to win the division, and probably isn’t good enough to advance past the ALDS without major good fortune regardless of a player or two. We certainly need the GM, whether it’s Hahn (likely) or his replacement to figure out how to get this team more athletic, better defensively and more left handed this winter. Pains to say it cause he’s a stud, but trading AV is likely the best path forward.

Unfortunately that is correct

Mods, can we make a Padres sub forum for Caulfied to talk to himself please?

Hope we get to see Perez in September. He’s earned it.

Well they used one of those five on Burger yesterday, so yeah...I don't think that was a consideration and i doubt they're concerned about brining Haseley up and down 3 or more times the rest of the season. Ultimately, its not really worth getting worked up about, but plaything shorthanded for no reason is dumb. That said, I think there may be something to the thought that the FO just wants to keep these guys away from TLR so he doesn't play them.

That's not how options work. They're used once per year. Haseley and Burger have already been optioned. In fact, Burger was optioned yesterday. I literally think its as simple as Robert is close and was actually in the clubhouse, as oppose to having to fly Burger or Haseley to Chicago for 2 games they're highly unlikely to appear in.

That doesn't stop them from bringing Burger or Haseley up instead and them optioning them back when Robert is actually ready. But yeah, its not really worth getting up in arms about but Sox continue to manage their roster in incredibility stupid ways.

I mean, he's gotta be close. They wouldn't have activated him otherwise. I feel much better about Robert since he was activated than I did prior. At least we know he's not dying.

Where he was drafted is irrelevant at this point. The Sox cannot continue to roster all three of Eloy, Vaughn and Abreu. If that isn't clear, you haven't paid much attention lately. I am not just suggesting flipping AV for any old middle infielder. Vaughn is valuable and I would expect the return to be also be valuable, but just better fits the roster. *This all assumes Abreu isn't going anywhere*

I think its just more likely that Hahn didn't want to give up any of Montgomery, Colas, Vera, Rodriguez or Ramos for 10 weeks of a player. Frankly, I don't disagree with him. You can't force teams to trade you useful players for shitty players, like a select few posters here constantly seem to think is realistic.

Yeah, my other priority is solving the Abreu/AV/Eloy problem. I am holding Eloy for now and I too think Abreu is going nowhere. So I’m likely looking to move AV this offseason if/when Abreu re-signs. This team badly needs to get more athletic, better defensively in the OF and more left handed. Flipping AV for a LH middle infielder that can field his position and has similar control seems like a good fit.

We should shoot a bit higher. Brantley would be a fine fallback option, but he's getting old and isn't a good outfielder. Brandon Nimmo should be priority number 1, 2, 3 and 4.