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Pain. At least go after Rosario so you can put one in JRams back.

Correct

Rwmirez deserves one in the upper regions. Enough is enough.

Probably for now with Yaz taking Luis' roster spot. They'll drop try to move one of them for something of use in the next 10 days before

Because he doesn’t like him. Not even worth conversing with him on it honestly.

Because they're fans who are impatient and want success now. Sox need more players with the offensive profile of Moncada and Grandal (when playing to their abilities), not less.

And your assumptions aren’t huge? I love fWAR as much as the next guy but how hard is it to understand that the Sox need lineup balance and a left handed hitting 1.5 fWAR guy that balances the lineup and actually hits righties well is more valuable than more of the same on this roster that can’t hit a righty if he was throwing a chicago softball? Sox probably aren’t signing Conforto. But it’s just amazing to me that people can’t understand how badly this team needs a good left handed bat (or 3), even after watching this offense flail for 3 months. Conforto is the definition of a good left handed bat.

He's 29 years old. He had a shoulder surgery, he didn't die. He'll be fine. Whoever signs him to this pillow contract is going to be quite happy. And no, I am not friends with SCott Boras. I am a die hard white sox fan that see's this team sucks donkey dick against RHP and BADLY needs help from the left side, something Conforto can provide EVEN IF HE DOESN'T IMPROVE on his 2021 numbers.

Nimmo would be a better fit than Conforto. Nimmo would be excellent. Difference is 1 isn't available right now, and the other difference is Nimmo will require far more years and dollars. Relevant differences in the scope of this conversation. Me thinks TONS of clubs are going to be after Nimmo this offseason.

Yet you want to focus on the smallest possible past performance and ignore the much larger sample size that doesn't fit your narrative. Convenient "analysis".

Cespedes isn't very good at baseball and should be relied on for exactly nothing.

Or we can keep running out an right handed heavy lineup that cannot hit RHP. Surely our luck will change in that regard eventually, right? Our team has been so poor against RHP this year we probably won't make the playoffs, but if we do, surely we'll be facing studly RHP. Let's just cross our fingers our free swinging RHH club decides to learn how to hit it effectively that series!

Batting average is irrelevant. He has a career 135 wRC+ against RHP. That means he is 35% better against RHP than an average MLBer. Even in his down 2021, he had 119 wRC+, which would be good for the 3rd best hitter on the Sox against RHP. So yeah, he is an elite hitter against RHP. Sorry you don't like stats that matter.

Lol, yea, why would the Sox need an elite hitter against RHP?

I wish he was right.

Conforto is a legit LH option. Even in this down season you speak of, he was still 19% above league average against RHP (119 wRC+), which would make him the third most productive hitter against RHP on the 2022 White Sox behind only Abreu (140 wRC+) and AV (128 wRC+). The only reason you can get him on the cheap is the down 21 and the injury. So yeah, I disagree strongly, and the numbers do as well.

Not sure how anyone could define a career wRC+ of 136 against RHP as "dead weight" on this club. Conforto's bat is, quite literally, exactly what this club needs more of. You can't really expect much from him this year, but the move is more about taking a step towards solving the god awful offense against RHP in 2023. For a pillow contract and the chance to contribute in September? Good $ spent IMO. Decent chance he turns into a significant asset.

I mean, yeah maybe. Pollock could still reject his player option. Unlikely if he doesn't play better the next 2.5 months. If Sox were to sign Conforto in the next couple weeks, I think its possible the Sox could "Rios" Pollock and someone desperate for OF would snag him. I am assuming Pollock is on the roster next season, and while paying him $12M or whatever isn't ideal, the net cost is $7M because the $5M buyout is guaranteed regardless, and frankly the OF insurance is probably worth having for $7M. He doesn't even need to be that good to be worth $7M.

I’d happily sign Conforto to a 2 year $15M deal whether he is ready to contribute this season or not.

Elote.

I am with Yoan on this one. (ducks)

He's not really owned that much $. $12M AAV over 23 and 24 with two additional team options. I'd happily roll the dice on him staying healthy for htat price tag as opposed to dumping him for next to nothing. $12M is mice nuts in today's game. He should - as i've been saying for over a year now - be the primary DH, tho. Fuck his feelings. He hasn't earned the ability to choose where he plays.

Trading Vaughn as the centerpiece of Soto allows the rest of the roster to fall into much better place, assuming that Abreu is going no where (probably safe assumption). I love AV. But that is a move I'd make.

Which is exactly the reason the Sox shouldn't trade him for pennies on the dollar. Eloy would be close to a toss-in in a Soto trade. He has very little value right now. He's worth far more to the Sox right now than anyone else.

This. Most of this board has lost all ability to look at Grandal objectively. I bet he comes back and looks much closer to late season 21 Grandal than early season 22 Grandal.