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Lol, yea, why would the Sox need an elite hitter against RHP?

I wish he was right.

Conforto is a legit LH option. Even in this down season you speak of, he was still 19% above league average against RHP (119 wRC+), which would make him the third most productive hitter against RHP on the 2022 White Sox behind only Abreu (140 wRC+) and AV (128 wRC+). The only reason you can get him on the cheap is the down 21 and the injury. So yeah, I disagree strongly, and the numbers do as well.

Not sure how anyone could define a career wRC+ of 136 against RHP as "dead weight" on this club. Conforto's bat is, quite literally, exactly what this club needs more of. You can't really expect much from him this year, but the move is more about taking a step towards solving the god awful offense against RHP in 2023. For a pillow contract and the chance to contribute in September? Good $ spent IMO. Decent chance he turns into a significant asset.

I mean, yeah maybe. Pollock could still reject his player option. Unlikely if he doesn't play better the next 2.5 months. If Sox were to sign Conforto in the next couple weeks, I think its possible the Sox could "Rios" Pollock and someone desperate for OF would snag him. I am assuming Pollock is on the roster next season, and while paying him $12M or whatever isn't ideal, the net cost is $7M because the $5M buyout is guaranteed regardless, and frankly the OF insurance is probably worth having for $7M. He doesn't even need to be that good to be worth $7M.

I’d happily sign Conforto to a 2 year $15M deal whether he is ready to contribute this season or not.

Elote.

I am with Yoan on this one. (ducks)

He's not really owned that much $. $12M AAV over 23 and 24 with two additional team options. I'd happily roll the dice on him staying healthy for htat price tag as opposed to dumping him for next to nothing. $12M is mice nuts in today's game. He should - as i've been saying for over a year now - be the primary DH, tho. Fuck his feelings. He hasn't earned the ability to choose where he plays.

Trading Vaughn as the centerpiece of Soto allows the rest of the roster to fall into much better place, assuming that Abreu is going no where (probably safe assumption). I love AV. But that is a move I'd make.

Which is exactly the reason the Sox shouldn't trade him for pennies on the dollar. Eloy would be close to a toss-in in a Soto trade. He has very little value right now. He's worth far more to the Sox right now than anyone else.

This. Most of this board has lost all ability to look at Grandal objectively. I bet he comes back and looks much closer to late season 21 Grandal than early season 22 Grandal.

Why would they want Eloy? It makes no sense.

Yep, cannot fault them for putting their best guys out there. Lance still gets a few days of extra rest.

That's fair. I don't think the Sox will be trading for Soto. Though AV is just as valuable as a blue chip prospect, IMO. He know he's not going to flop.

It is. Teams hug their elite prospects even more now than they did 5 years ago.

Agreed. I think you add up the sums of the parts, the package will look very similar.

Montgomery and Colas are really our only prospects to get too worked up about. I'd happily trade AV + a mixture of Mena/Sosa/Vera or really anyone else not on the MLB roster for Soto. Its the inclusion of Montgomery who is a profile of player we've lacked forever that gives me major pause. And I love AV. But if you can flip 4.3 seasons of AV plus bustable prospects for 2.3 seasons of Soto in the midst of our contention window, ya gotta do it.

Yeah, I know what you meant by Vera/Mena/Sosa

Sale also had more control, and was actually on a team friendly contract. Soto has less control, and will be paid likely $60M+ over the next 2 seasons via arb.

The Sox aren't committing $500M tho. So its prospects for 2 seasons and 2 months of Soto, who then leaves.

My guess: 22nd - Giolito 23rd - Martin, Cueto 24th - Cease 25th - OFF 26th - Lynn 27th - Kopech 28th - OFF 29th - Giolito 30th - Cueto 31st - Cease 1st - Lynn 2nd - Kopech

Trading Montgomery, Sosa, Mena/Veras AND AV is gutting the future, though. Soto is awesome. Solves a ton of problems. I just said I'd trade AV, Sosa, Mena/Veras for him. I'd draw the line at including Montgomery for a guy we'll pay around $60M for 2 seasons and then watch him walk, and now our future is gutted. Not sure why I entered this chat though. The Sox aren't trading for Soto.

Straight up? Sure. Along with AV, Sosa and one of our two best pitching prospects which the post was referring to? Probably not.

Yeah, that's fair. I am not trading Montgomery though.