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10 minutes ago, Orlando said:
More moves on the way?
What was this in response to? He could just be insinuating that the early season White Sox won't be the finished product. Which is true becuase Kopech, Madrigal and few pen arms that will contribute will likely all start in AAA.
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5 minutes ago, aeichhor said:
Best of luck to you, Dylan.
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6 minutes ago, steveno89 said:
I think Sox feel good about rolling the dice on Mazara for 2020 in RF. A change of scenery might really benefit him, and he can bat in the 7/8/9 hole with less pressure.
Castellanos just does not seem like a fit, especially after inking Encarnacion to DH.
If the Sox add they should look to a guy like Gennett/Dozier/Iglesias.
Iglesias is already signed.
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Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:
OK thanks so I was right, around $100M post arb or around $90M pre arb. So as others have said besides me, it requires patience to see how 2020 plays out and Castellanos doesn't fit , As @ptatc and I said . Let the young relievers develop and maybe the lost BP pieces can mosty be added internally and Kopech and the other young startes can keep advancing too and 2021-2023 is your window to win the World Series.
I can't really count 2020 in that window unless the young starters show a lot of improvement by the All Star break and then we can add to the team if necessary. Less likely to add having Castellanos salary in the mix.
Its like $70M prearb, not $90M.
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4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:
I know there will be those others things but the starting point is probably less than $100 maybe closer to $90 right ? You tell me.
Is $150M payroll out of the question next year? $140M ?
Just ran through it and it should be right around $100M including all arb plauyers with generous arb 1 raises for Moncada, Giolito, Lopez, Bummer and Fry. This also assumes EE, Herrera and Gio Gonzalez are gone, Mazara is non-tendered and Rodon tendered for $7.5M.
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14 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:
Pederson is realistic. I don’t think Betts or Springer are at all.
I don't think Betts is "realistic", but I think Sox should have better than 1/10 shot. Assuming they don't sign NC to a 3 year deal in the next couple weeks, the White Sox will be one of a handful of teams that will definitely be in the bidding for Betts. Will they land him? Chances are they won't, but its a lot easier to drop that kind of cash on 1 player when you don't have a bunch of other holes to fill. 2021 payroll should be right around $100M after arb, so its not like they don't have room and RF and perhaps a pen arm or two are (hopefully) going to be the only big holes to fill next offseason.
Punting any ability to play in the RF FA market next offseason just so we can run a DH out in RF for the next 3 seasons that is only a slightly above average hitter against RHP is so so so so so shortsighted unless it is a 1 year deal.
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BA released their top 100 today. Anyone with access care to share?
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A little surprised a tanking team didn't put in a claim.
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1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said:
Why are people not remembering Mazara is also a bad defender?
Mazara is a slightly below average OF. Castellanos is legitimately one of the very worst defensive OF in the game.
Big difference.
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37 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:
"If a player has more than three years of Major League service time or was previously outrighted in his career (by his current club or another club), he is eligible to reject the outright assignment and instead opt for free agency."
Covey was outright back in 2018, so he can reject the assignment.
He was previously Outrighted? Don’t recall that.
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51 minutes ago, flavum said:
I see on MLBTR that it’s still up in the air whether he’ll choose free agency rather than accept the outright.
I believe that is wrong. When has Covey been previously Outrighted?
edit: sounds like maybe he was in 2018, don’t recall that.
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Cleared waivers. Outrighted to Charlotte.
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48 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:
Older, draft pick attached, and Castellanos’ hot streak with the Cubs in the second half could sway some teams thoughts. If Castellanos gets only 2/$40, I I’ll definitely be upset the Sox didn’t sign him. No long term risk on that type of contract.
Meh, just such a desperate move. Honestly, I wouldn’t complain. But we could still really use a legit stud bat and signing Castellanos removes all doubt. His defensive shortcomings are too much to ignore. Still just hate the fit. 1/$20M and it’s hard to argue as you’re basically just choosing NC over Mazara. 2/$40M you’re committing to two terrible OF for 2 years and you’re robbing yourself of any ability to play in the RF FA market next winter. I get why some Sox fans love the idea, but it’s just such a classic white Sox move and this offseason starts to look just way too much like the same old bs. Obviously he young studs we have are what makes it different, but just show some patience.
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Minor league signings not previously mentioned/made public:
RHP: Drew Anderson, Brady Lail, Alex MCrae
LHP: Brought back Jacob Lindgren and Matt Tomshaw. Added Adalberto Mejia.
IF: Brought back Matt Skole
OF: Jaycob Brugman
The others had all been made public previously.
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Madrigal 2nd on 2B list. Didn't see that posted here.
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If you're willing to pay for Arenado, just pay a little more on an AAV basis for Betts in a year who fits MUCH MUCH better and we don't need to fuck with our best player again, or move elite prospects.
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If something like 1/$20 is possible at this point, I'd roll the dice. Otherwise hard pass.
1 minute ago, ScooterMcGee said:I'd rather throw money at Betts next offseason
This. And as long of a shot as it may be, there is the potential that RF will be the only position we need to address next offseason, and Betts would be the finishing piece. A little easier to drop $350M on one guy when you don't have a shit load of other holes to fill.
In the meantime, we still have the chance for Mazara to have his best MLB season to date, or Adolfo to stay healthy and explode.
Definitely don't want to commit to NC longer than a year as that is committing to essentially punting team defense which is stupid.
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Any would work, but I’d probably prefer Miller, Holt and Zobrist as top 3 options.
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23 minutes ago, hi8is said:
Really excited for all 4 of them. 2021 looks crazy good.
CF - Robert
2B - Madrigal
3B - Moncada
RF - Eloy
DH - Abreu
C - Grandal
1B - Vaughn
SS - Anderson
LF - Mazara
FIFY:
Robert CF, Moncada 3B, Betts RF, Eloy LF, Grandal C, Abreu DH, Vaughn 1B, Anderson SS, Madrigal 2B
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Per Rosenthal. Minors deal. 29 YO RH reliever. Numbers are not strong.
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5 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:
Not really.
If Tim got hurt, the top minor league SS is Laz Rivera who hit .248/.287/.318 in AA last season. Then maybe Yolbert Sanchez who hasn't even played stateside yet.
So yah, I'd say he's SS insurance in Charlotte.
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Well I guess thats some SS insurance.
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Steve Stone Hinting At Another Move: Not Puig / Castellanos
in Pale Hose Talk
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Mazara isn't going to "bomb out". At worst he's who he always has been, which is a slightly above replacement level player that hits RHP very well. Leury will get starts against LHP in RF.