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If Robert was called up today and remained in the big leagues, he would accrue over 6.0 years of service time in 2025, and would be a free agent in 2026. He would play the majority of the 2025 season at age 27, turning 28 in August. His first year under his free agent contract (if not extended before then) would be played at age 28, turning 29 in August. And I don't know what to tell you about the service time thing. Basically all teams do it. The Twins demoted Byron fucking Buxton last year with over 1,000 major league plate appearances in order to get an extra year of control. Until the rules are changed with the next CBA, teams will continue to take advantage of the rules. You don't have to "be good with it", but it is what it is.

Seriously, though. And Eloy had 3x the minor league at bats. The Sox have clearly shown how they plan to handle their elite offensive talents. I don't know why anybody expects anything different here. I could see them becoming more aggressive when they're actually competing for divisions and happen to find themselves with an elite positional talent, but not right now.

The goal should be to put the organization in the best possible position to win as many world series as possible from 2021 on, IMO.

Improving his BB% and K% would certainly be an easy one. He is striking out 24.25% of the time and walking just 5.39% of the time in A+ and AA this season. How do you think that is going to look against MLB pitching? Obviously he is always going to K alot, and will never be a guy who takes 100 walks, but its not like there is nowhere for Robert to show signs of improvement.

I personally don't think Robert getting a couple hundred (likely over-matched) plate appearances in 2019 is going to make any difference on his 22-24 performances.

Lol - these dudes are dead!!!! Jake Burger toe his fucking Achilles. Get a grip, dude.

This is a fairly ignorant take for a number of reasons.

Robert just yesterday eclipsed 550 minor league at bats. There is no reason to rush him to the big leagues. This has been explained to you many times, but you clearly just don't care to listen. You are on the opposite side of the fence, and that is fine. Not everyone has to agree. But it is OK to see the viewpoints from the other side! Luis Robert will be far more valuable to this organization as a 28 year old in the midst of his prime than as a raw 21 year old on a team that will be lucky to win 75 games. That is really all that matters. I don't think any one is denying that he is best CF in the organization right now and that picking up a couple hundred MLB at bats this summer wouldn't hurt his development. But he'll get 90% of 2020 to get his feet wet in the big leagues, and then the Sox have him for an additional year of control of a potential HOF caliber player in the midst of his prime towards the backend of the Sox' window. It is so worth the wait. If you haven't noticed, the Sox are not in a hurry. They didn't rebuild this thing to get impatient in the 11th hour. They want to spread out the FA of their talented players, and they want to try to extend their contention window as long as possible. Part of doing that is being patient with young talent. Robert was amazing in A+ and has been great again in AA, but the kid hardly played last season, and frankly has played very little organized baseball since he defected from Cuba in 2016. I get wanting the Sox to put their most talented players on the major league roster, but it is okay to be patient! Hahn has said repeatedly that they don't want to promote guys until they're ready to produce at the major league level, and stay there! For years the Sox were impatient, and they're finally starting to do things the right way. Good things come to those that wait, and I have a very good feeling we'll all be very happy the Sox didn't rush into bringing a 21 year kid with very limited pro at bats to the big leagues in a lost season. He'll be here soon enough for us all to enjoy!

I think it goes over $100M.

Somehow find a way to go 4-2 this week and the Sox are sitting in a decent place heading into the ASG. I think taking 3/4 from Detroit should be doable. As for the Twins, its a good thing they got off to such a hot start. Their pitching is coming back to reality and will continue to do so, and it's unlikely all of their regulars crush their preseason projections like they did in the 1st half. They have enough of a cushion that they can play .500 ball the rest of the season and still win 93 games. They should still easily win the division, but IMO, they need to do a lot of work to that pitching staff to have any real chances at even making the World Series. Much more likely to get swept or lose 3/4 to the Yankees in the first round, like they are so apt at doing.

Ummmm.....every team?

Both have 2.8 fWAR. Devers a little better offensively, Moncada definitely better defensively. Not sure what Devers has to do with Moncada though.

He'd be widely considered one of the best players in the game.

Don't even bother, you'll never convince him that rushing Robert to the big leagues due to lack of patience is pure stupidity.

Ehhh I’d rather not fuck with Eloy, and IMO you should be an all star to be in HR derby.

He’d be fun to see in the HR derby too.

I would have preferred Yoan or the top of the game selection for Timmy even tho he wouldn’t be able to play. But good for Jose!

Nice. Excited to watch him pitch!

Totally fair, and I completely agree.

The Sox don’t need 6 position players to produce 3+ fWAR to be “okay”. The Sox obviously need to add some high end SP, and need Kopech and Cease to be solid Mlb starters next season. There is no doubt about that.

Because you need to fill out your roster. He picked up two veteran SP in Nova and Santana and due to all the injuries we still have spent the last couple weeks with only 3 SP on the roster! Every team picks up guys like this every season. You’re legitimately b****ing about something that all 30 teams do. It’s so silly. Hahn’s short term moves from this offseason haven’t worked out well, no doubt. But they haven’t set the organization back at all, so it doesn’t bear repeating every single day.

I’m not defending the moves and of course I’d rather have Machado than any of the guys you’ve listed. But we don’t. And the guys you listed are all going to be gone very soon, if they aren’t already. Could Hahn have done a better job filling in holes in the roster with short term pieces? Yes. But I’m also not losing my mind over signing guys like Herrera and Santana and taking on Nova when we clearly needed pitching. Santana was a flop but he cost the organization nothing. No one expected Nova and Herrera to be this bad. Sometimes things don’t work out, and Hahn has had more than his fair share of those. But I’m just not going to lose my mind over short term stop gap players that will all be gone before this team is ready to compete.

Someday you’ll realize that the Sox weren’t trying to compete in 2019, and that all of those moves were clearly filler until more pieces from the farm were ready. Only one of those guys are even under control in 2020!!! But sure, keep repeating the same tired bullshit every single day if it makes you happy. You’ve single handedly decreased the quality of this message board significantly. It sucks because you clearly know baseball and can have intelligent discussion, but you prefer to just repeat the same shit everyday.

Quintana at $10.5M is definitely going to command more than an organizational player. The guy is at worst a rock solid back of the rotation pitcher getting paid appropriately. The Cubs are not going to give him away.

Who gives a fuck dude? Alonso sucked. He clearly was acquired to try to help with Machado. It didn’t work out. He’s no longer on the roster. It was definitely a bad trade, but it’s not like the Sox have up anything of value, and it will have no negative impact moving forward.