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Sigh.

Yay for 1B/DHs! The top of the draft board will shake up alot over the next few months...I really hope the Sox don't take a 1B 3rd overall.

Kopech won't have pitched in a 18 months. He'll be back, but to expect him to be able to pitch over 150 innings and actually be the ace we would need him to be to compete in 2020 is......a pipedream. Its possible in the sense that anything is possible. But there is no way this team is playing meaningful baseball in 2020 at this point, IMHO.

His name definitely came up a lot in discussions here and on twitter, but who knows if he was ever really available.

That Jesus Luzardo for Robertson deal looks pretty good as well.

We aren't competing in 2020. That shit flew out the window with Kopech and Machado.

I saw a tweet from someone (fegan maybe?) a week or so ago - may have been buried in the Manny news - that Hansen was having shoulder discomfort when throwing prior to ST and had alerted the team.

Sounds about right

Im with ya dude. This org is a fuckin' joke right now.

I prefer pollyana CWS.

So after 3 years there are a series of five 1 year player options? Wow.

I know the Sox probably don't want their name bandied about in the media / negotiations due to the Machado fallout, but what is stopping Boras or Boras' mouthpieces from still using the Sox for leverage? Even if it is against the Sox wishes, there is nothing really stopping the Sox from still being used left and right even if they're in this thing and don't want it public. Whats your take there?

Sox never had a chance with Harper IMO, but if San Fran is willing to go 10 years and "a chance at the record dollar figure he's been looking for" as some San Fran people are reporting now, this thing is over.

I don't necessarily think it is, and I've said all along I don't think Harper has interest in the signing with the Sox. I think they could offer 10/$330M and it could be the best offer by $30M and he won't take it. I am just struggling to determine who that other $300M offer could be if not the Sox.

I could see that. Dodgers are smart enough to do something unique.

Assuming no more major league additions, here is my shot at the OD roster: Catcher: Castillo 1B: Abreu 2B: Yolmer SS: Anderson 3B: Moncada LF: Palka CF: Engel RF: Jay DH: Alonso BN: Leury (out of options), Rondon (out of options), McCann Rotation: Rodon, Lopez, Nova, Giolito, Banuelos (out of options) Bullpen: Colome, Herrera, Jones, Fry, Frare, Covey, Hamilton, Minaya (out of options) DL: Santana

Well there is they "mystery team" offer that is over $300M, along with the Phillies. We know its not the Dodgers or he would have signed. All indications are the Giants are not willing to go that long. So....could very well be the Sox.

Because there is a significant difference between 4/$160M and 10/$320M????

No one has any idea, but safe to assume somewhere beween $34.5M-$40M AAV on a 3-4 year basis.

Pretty obvious he prefers the west coast. If he's signing a short term deal, it isn't going to be with the White Sox. Only reason he would sign with the Sox is 1) they offer the most money and 2) they offer the most money and he hates the idea of spending 10 years in Philly. End of story.

Is he really going to take a short term deal from the Dodgers or San Fran? Man TF up Jerry.

That Cain deal looks like an absolute steal now. Well done by the Brewers.

I do think that it is important to have waves of talents that hit FA in different years. First wave will be Moncada, Anderson, Lopez and Gio. Second wave Kopech, Eloy and Cease. Third wave Robert, Madrigal, etc.... Everyone hitting FA the same offseason isn't ideal. And Eloy is ready. He will be up in late April.

I believe SS2k and I have discussed it before. I personally was super against promoting Kopech when they did last season (as was at least a portion of this board). Obviously once he was up I was excited to watch him. The decision was just exacerbated to the 10th degree when he blew out his elbow. IMO, it was a dumb move. I would have happily waited until May 2019 to watch him pitch. He could file a grievance all he wanted - he wasn't going to win IMO. Now I do agree that based on his previous 15 starts or whatever he was definitely ready for the bigs - but he was pitching meaningless games and wasting very meaningful service time for like 5-6 starts. I didn't like it. Now who knows if he blows out his elbow in his final handful of starts in AAA. Maybe he does it this winter, or in ST. Maybe it doesn't happen until May 2019 when he's pitching in the bigs. No one knows. It is what it is now. But one thing is certain - the way it played out literally could not have been worse for the Sox.

Kopech wasn’t going to win any grievances. He had overall decent not great minor league numbers last season. Spilled milk and no reason to debate, but he wasn’t so incredibly dominant that he’d have won a grievance and been forced onto the mlb roster while sitting out a year rehabbing from TJS.