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Schoop and Machado both wouldn't really fit.

Ya Schoop wouldn’t be an awful stopgap at 3B.

I am not trading Carlos Rodon at far from peak value to turn around and sign Corbin or Kuechel. That is insanity.

I think Rockies would do a Gray to Rodon swap in a heartbeat.

Because accepting any offer a few days before FA is idiotic for a player of Harper's caliber.

I don't hate your plan, though I think its time to move on from Moncada in CF. There is no real indication from the organization that they'd move him to CF over 3B. Also, I am not opening the checkbook to sign Patrick Corbin for 6 years, and then turning around and trading Rodon at not peak value, and I sure as shit am not trading him PLUS ANOTHER ASSET for Jon Gray. Makes no sense to me. Gray is a fine target, but Rodon has been measurably better as a pro, has a better pedigree, has better stuff, AND THEY BOTH HAVE 3 YEARS OF CONTROL. Don't get this one at all, and IMO, would be an AWFUL trade for the White Sox.

Avi has no value to the Sox. Even if he had a great season, he’ll have zero trade value. He had none with 2.5 seasons of cheap and non guaranteed control. Its time to move on. He’s not a part of the future.

Revised IDGAF let’s make some moves plan: Non-tender Avi Sign McCutchen 2 years $30M Sign Pollock 3 years $50M Sign Familia 2 years $18M Sign Manny Machado (effectively 4 years and 180M assuming he takes opt out; 4 years and 130M left (8/$310M)) Sign Ervin Santana 1 year $7M Sign Drew Pomeranz 1 year $6M Tyson Ross 1 year $4M + option Pollock CF, Moncada 2B, Machado 3B, Abreu 1B, McCutchen RF, Eloy LF, Palka/Davidson DH, Anderson SS, Narvaez/Castillo C Rodon, Lopez, Gio, Santana and Pomeranz Ross rotation insurance and Could stick him (or Pomeranz) in bullpen if need be. Jerry opens the wallet and brings the payroll near $150M in 2019 without any major commitments long term other than Machado. Leaves space in the rotation for Cease and Kopech in 2020. Generally allows the young bullpen guys the opportunity they need next season with some veteran insurance. It looks like a pretty strong offensive team that gets on base and scores a lot of runs. OF defense would be questionable. If the Indians sell off, that team could be interesting. And it just doesn’t (IMHO) set the rebuild back at all. These guys are blocking no one in 2019, and deals are short term. Zero prospects given up via trade. It’s just spending money that otherwise wouldn’t be spent and isn’t magically getting reallocated to future seasons. I know a sizable chunk here will hate it, but man it’d fun.

Realistically, Eloy is taking Avis spot. But yah, another major league caliber OF would be ideal. Avi and Eloy in the corners would be....interesting.

I actually think its quite the opposite. No one is going to give Avi a bunch of cash. If the Sox non-tender him, he'll be looking a one year deal in the $3-5M range. If he sucks again in 2019, he could be dangerously close to out of the league. That being said, he could blow up Jose Bautista style and make whatever team give him that $3-5M very happy.

In general.

Hopefully this offseason is less of a snoozer than last. Pretty boring so far.

Meh.

No, but I could see a 4/$60 or 3/$45-50M type. I'd definitely offer something like 4/$50M with something like 2019: $15M, 2020: $13M, 2021: $12M, 2022: $10M, and see what he says. Jose may just not want to mess with FA and take it.

So basically a three year $38M extension? Jose will probably get $16-18M in 2019 via the arbitration process. I'd do that too, but I think Jose would be shooting a tad higher.

If they're as motivated as they sound, I could see them sending $10M per for 5 years along with Cano for a minimal return. Prorating Cano's deal to ~$14M per makes it palatable in the short term anyway. Then trade Haniger for a big return when someone blow you away - they don't need to trade him this offseason, he's controlled a long time.

So he's looking for $16M AAV. I'd give Pollock 3 years and $48M in a heatbeat, maybe even bump up the AAV to $18M-$20M and try to get him for 2 years. I am guessing he'll get at least 4 years, but the QO may hamper the market a bit. Put him in CF in 2019, shift him to a corner when Robert/Basabe/Gonzalez/Rutherford/Adolfo push the issue.

It is certainly intriguing BA, but I don't see the M's giving away their best trade chip to rid themselves of Cano.

I don’t think this is a very good take.

Because effectively signing Cano to a 5-year $120M deal when he is 36 years old is insane, just to acquire a frickin' reliever. That is the type of move that would completely kill any chance of the Sox signing a big FA when they're actually ready, and completely kill the rebuild if Cano fell off a cliff, which he very well may do in his ages 38-41 seasons. There is some level of $$ thrown in by Seattle that makes acquiring Cano at least worth entertaining / spit-balling about, but its at least $50M.

I don't compute how you can behind acquiring Cano at $24M AAV, but completely against signing anyone other than elite FAs unless their market completely craters. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

lol, wut? Pay Cano $120M for his final 5 seasons as a big leaguer, just to acquire a reliever along with him? That is a good use of resources? I hope this was a typo, otherwise your takes are inconsistent AF.

I'm not really in the sign Corbin/Keuchel/Eovaldi to long term contracts bandwagon either. But I don't think guys with some actual upside like Kikuchi or even vets like Gio Gonzalez, Lynn, Ervin Santana, Pomeranz, etc. on two years deals is the worst thing in the world. I'd prefer not to fill the last 2 spots in the rotation with the Santiagos, Shields, Miguel Gonzalez and Hollands of the world.

Having too many good pitchers is a good thing, not a bad thing.

No, incorrect. Cano has $120M on his contract, yes. He has 5 years remaining ($24M per over 5 years = $120M). I clearly said if M's send along $50M with Cano. $120M-$50M=$70M/5=$14M. Math and shit.