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Who do you have your eye on at 47, Dirty?

Does today go through the 2nd round?

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Didn’t realize Goldberg was 28 already. Just recieving cash in return.

Trade him for a bag of balls and put Stephens in the rotation.

Yeah, next season. Putting your big boy pants on 1/3 on the way through a 55-107 season seems shortsighted, and very well could cost you a generational talent because you won 3-5 extra games. But fair enough.

I think they would "push" them because they'r ready to get the next core of players all on the field together, learning to win and taking their lumps together in preparation for the next several seasons. I also don't think calling Collins and Dunning up in June or July next year is really "pushing it". They're both in AA right now, and doing very well. Signing free agents that fit into the future core and developing prospects are not mutually exclusive. I don't expect the Sox to sign Machado, but getting him a plugging him in at 3B for the next 6-8 seasons does a lot to improve the future outlook. A true CF wouldn't be all bad either, maybe a guy like AJ Pollock. I don't think those types of signings hamper the future, though I think Machado makes more sense than Pollock long term.

Disagree heavily on the bolded. Cease is pushing it, hence the "perhaps even". I full expect to see Burdi right away next season, and could definitely see Collins and Dunning by mid season.

I draw the line at 2019. I expect this team to try and turn the page and actually start to teach this team how to win baseball games. Once a few weeks pass in 2019, I fully expect and hope to see Kopech and Eloy up for good, and I'd like to see other real prospects Dunning, Collins, Burdi and perhaps even Cease figuring into the 2019 plans as well at some point.

A few things: -Eloy and Kopech may be pissed that they were kept down longer than they felt they deserved. But this organization owns their right for 6 seasons. If they want to make it big playing baseball, they'll get over it. -Oh like the Cubs with Bryant? That really affected their ability to attract free agents. Money speaks, and money is what gets FAs. -2024 and 2025 should certainly matter, and are very much the backend of what appears to be a strong 5-7 year window for the Sox. As a fan, I am happy to wait for Kopech and Eloy in a season that we're on pace for less than 50 wins if it means we have them for an extra season when we actually are trying to win baseball games and compete for championships. -We more than likely aren't getting the Kyle Tuckers and Gleybor Torres (yes, I know he was an intl FA) without being terrible. I don't think Kopech and Eloy are going to suddenly turn this team into a .500 club, but they will add some wins, and it is very, very important that the Sox add one more elite talent to this group with the 2019 draft. This season is already toast - may as well get the #1 pick out of the deal.

40% of the posters that have voted feel that way. Its not a few peoples takes. I personally would much rather have them for 162 games in 2025 than 50-70 games in a lost season where one more elite talent could be added to this crop of players for the 2020-2025 window. I don't think those 50-70 games in 2018 are going to make any measurable difference for Eloy or Kopech's ability to be all-star caliber players while under the control of the Sox.

Just curious...how exactly is a damaging?? The White Sox own these guys for their first 6 big league seasons. They can be as pissed as they want at the organization, but its their career, and me thinks they care a bit more about becoming major league baseball stars than pissed off at their organization. Eloy will go to AAA soon. When he does, if he continues to rake, it will be hard to keep him down all season. It will be interesting to see what happens. I think its pretty clear that Kopech still has some stuff to work on. He most certainly is capable of pitching in the bigs right now, and is likely our best pitcher, but he isn't a finished product - his walk rate is still up there, and his 3.86 ERA in AAA isnt setting the world on fire (yes I realize a lot of that is one start).

Palka deserves the at bats he is getting. His current OPS+ is 126. Guy is absolutely terrible in the OF, but I see no reason to stop giving him at bats right now.

I want to see Stephens in Chicago, like now. He'll be 26 in September. Let's see what we have before the rotation spots get harder to come by in the next couple seasons.

Yawn.

Supposed to be released today. Look forward to seeing the movers on the Sox.

I see basically no good reason to call up Eloy or Kopech this season. I understand that you can make an argument that Eloy is ready, and Kopech for that matter, but this season is toast. We're already wasting valuable service time on Moncada and others. Just do this thing the right way, get another year of control on the backend when it matters instead of now when it doesn't, and secure the #1 pick in the meantime. Get serious about actually putting a product on the field that con compete on nightly basis in 2019.

Fulmer and Giolito, and it is not close.

I don't think the bullpen is good. But, like I said, as of Sunday or Monday, they had a top 3 bullpen era in the past 5-6 weeks. I saw it in a tweet from a reputable source, can't recall who, and don't have the time or energy to find it. I suspect the Indians series also put a dent in that numbe.r

I am fully in the boat of letting this ship sink. I see no reason to let Eloy or Kopech play an inning prior to late next April. Start getting serious about this team learning how to win in 2019. Keep letting the AAAA trash, and fringe prospects, sink or swim at the MLB level in the meantime. I want the #1 pick.

As of a few days ago, the Sox bullpen had one of the best ERA's in the game over the past month.

This is never going to happen.

Kevan Smith off DL in Charlotte. Have to imagine he'll be in Chicago by Friday.

Yah, I agree. I think it has more to do with their ability to pitch a few innings, and the fact that they've both been decent, especially Volstad.

I don't think Cedeno or Gomez have any value either, but I'd definitely make that change once Hector is back in the pen for good.