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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) I think the White Sox are just playing Pricing Cop to make sure nobody gets him cheap. They're probably legitimately surprised that they're considered a high bidder. Perhaps...but it really makes you wonder what the Sox offer could be. Maybe something like Cease or Fulmer, Adams and Stephens. Gives BAL a few arms that are MLB ready or not terribly far away from the majors without really hurting the Sox all the much. A deal like that I could get behind, and I could see it being something the Sox offered just to see where they stood. With what the Fish received for Stanton/Ozuna/Gordon, they didn't exactly set up a seller's market, so maybe an offer like that actually does get the Sox to the table for 1 year of MM.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 13s The #SFGiants and #Bluejays have talked to the #Whitesox about acquiring outfielder Avisail Garcia, but nothing close If the Sox were actually trying to acquire MM, trading assets Avi and Abreu makes no sense. Not signing any decent relievers makes no sense. You trade for one of the stars of the game on a 1 year deal, you may as well try make the team around him a contender.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) ? I certainly don't enjoy the prospect of shipping out some of our best for such a retarded risk. Thumbs waaaaaay down. Don't see it happening. If this was KW still running the show, I bet it'd be done and announced two or three days ago. Really no reason to use that word, bruh.

Burdi would have been nice but it was a nice surprise not losing any of our guys.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) I agree with the max that you would give up but that doesn't match the news (possibly fake) that we had the best offer. Many other teams would have definitely been willing to beat that for even 1 year of Machado. Tough to know what 'best offer' entails though. Its conceivable that an offer like Avi + Fulmer + Yolmer could be the most attractive to BAL over a package of lower level prospects. They've made comments that they want to compete in 2018 whether they have MM or not, so an offer like that could be intriguing to them.

QUOTE (rowand's rowdies @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 10:28 AM) It could have been an offer like Timmy Anderson, Giolito and Fulmer, which would be the best offer likely out there. It is a calculated risk like Rick said, we have the depth to rebound pitching wise and lose the risk on Timmy. We would also be "cashing" in on an early contract Rick signed like always. I wouldn't like that trade. Or even two of those guys for a rental and showcase of the greatness that is WhiteSoxdom, but I could see something like it happening. That's more than a calculated risk. Max I'd do is something like pick 2 of Rutherford/Fulmer/Cease/Dunning, and a less regarded guy like Jordan Stephens, Clarkin, or Puckett is the final piece. Anything more than that it just doesn't add up.

QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Dec 14, 2017 -> 07:35 AM) This is where I'm at with all this. The way folks are talking on here makes it seem like the Sox would have to give up as much or more for one season of Machado than we received for 3 seasons of Sale, 4 seasons of Quintana, or 5 seasons of Eaton. Yep. Just don’t see how our top tier guys can be involved. It doesn’t make any sense.

The Orioles are dumb. I know they want pitching, but maybe they’d take something like Avi, Yolmer and Fulmer. Duquette has said this week they want to complete with or without Machado. Maybe theyd prefer guys they could plug right in. I’d be pretty upset if any of Moncada, Kopech, Eloy, Giolito, Lopez, Robert, Collins or Hansen are moved. I suppose I could live with losing a couple second tier guys - like pick 2 od Fulmer, Dunning and Rutherford. Ugh. I don’t know.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) I think Leury Garcia will get a nice bulk of time in CF (to start the year anyway). I don't really want a position player unless they deal Garcia in the next like 18 hours. I like Leury. Can't see them getting much for him, so I hope they just stick him in CF and let him play. Hopefully he can stay healthy.

Yawn. I'm bored.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) Ramos + Anderson + Williams? Sox would have to really like Ramos to make that deal though I'd probably want a better 2nd piece. I don't know a ton about the Giants system but Kelvin Beltre looks like an interesting guy as a backend of deal filler.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:18 PM) Yeah, he is a perfect guy to pick up. The only reasons we shouldn't take Burdi are if someone else take him before us or his brother gives us some inside info about him not returning to form. I dont think his own brother is going to tell the Sox to shy away.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:15 PM) Not much in the SF farm that the Sox would want though. Arroyo? Ramos? Beyond them their system is scary thin on talent. Jordan Gonzalez? I like Ramos alot.

Giants would still seem to be a fit. A's if Piscotty deal falls through.

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 05:38 PM) Obviously there would be a 72 hr window along with that. When is the last time a 48-72 hour window went down in the MLB?

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 05:25 PM) 100% agree, but how can Hahn be sure? Anderson, Fulmer, Dunning, Sheets too much? For 1 year!? I’d hate that.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:52 PM) To keep him as a LHSP in AA? Who would the White Sox have to send him back to? I guess...but I see virtually no chance he makes it though the entire league without getting picked, and I don't see the Sox taking him with their 1st pick.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 04:46 PM) Can you pick your own guy? Whats the point though? Could have just put him on the 40 man 30 days ago and DFA'd Alen Hanson. Clearly the Sox don't think much of him as a lefty reliever.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Well this was a generally quiet first day for everyone huh? Seriously. Super boring meetings so far.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 02:21 AM) Someone at work asked me if I would take Rafael Devers for Abreu straight up. I thought it was an interesting question. There is no way in hell the Sox turn that offer down. Zero. There is also no way the Red Sox make that offer. I'd be absolutely astonished.

A Severino / Judge / Sanchez package would have been neat. But I ain't complaining with Moncada and Kopech.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) Angels sign Rymer Liriano to a minor league deal. Big week in Anaheim. Didn't realize he was a FA.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) Why can't we take on JBJ and try to flip him later? If our scouts believe he's closer to the hitter he was in 2015/2016 (wRC+ of 120ish) than last year (wRC+ of 90), then he's seems like an incredible buy low type guy. I would most definitely need a secondary piece that offers some long-term potential like Chavis, but a deal like this could make a ton of sense for us. Again, got to trust your scounts on this one. I doubt we could get JBJ + anything of significance. We could always hold JBJ and flip later, sure...but his clock will be ticking. Unless he has a huge year, the best time to trade him for max value would be now.

I continue to think a three-way deal with the Sox moving Abreu, someone else getting JBJ, and the Sox getting prospects is about as good of a fit as we're going to get for Abreu. Maybe something like Fowler, Luzardo, and Armenteros from the A's would work. I don't know that I love that deal for the Sox, but trying to be realistic. I could see something around that framework. Not sure A's are looking to move prospects, though. But they always seem to be in the middle and a bit of an unknown....so ya never know.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) Fulmer's the kind of guy the White Sox should want right now. Plenty of talent, some minor league struggles, could break out if given a big league shot, could wind up as a reliever, no major harm if he has a terrible year. For 2018 that's still the kind of guy we should be playing. Agreed