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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) I don't think they want to trade Abreu, so really Melky and Gonzalez, and Melky may be an August guy are the 2 left to move. Then this winter will be incredibly dull. Everyone will be in their best shape and look better than ever on the field for spring training. Then the season will commence, as will the long losing streaks. The draft will occur. Everyone will declare Hostetler a genius. Then more losing, maybe a couple of call ups in August and September for some hope, then offseason 2018-2019 which will be either extremely interesting or extremely dull, depending on the development. So true. The next ~15 months of White Sox baseball is going to be really boring.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 02:18 PM) We will get the next Colton Turner for him. I'd hope we could get a little more than the return on Dioner F'in Navarro for Gonzo. He is at least useful.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) They won't just stick him out in a major league outfield without significant preparation. We'll see other outfielders over him at this point, like a Cordell/Polo/W.Garcia/Liriano. Delmonico has played a decent amount of OF the past two years. Definitely not his main position, but its not like they're throwing him out there without any preparation. In fact, I am a little surprised they went with Willy instead of Delmonico. May as well give the guy an opportunity at some point.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 12:03 PM) They probably don't need Melky and this is a pipe dream but getting Willie Calhoun in this organization would be incredible. Sadly, unless the Dodgers really like Yolmer/Gonzalez and more, I'm sure we can't get him While probably a complete pipedream, where would Willie Calhoun play? We do have that Moncada guy over at 2B, and Calhoun is knocking at the doorstep.

QUOTE (Whiterat29 @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) Pipeline has been updated, they have him at #14 Ahead of Burdi, Adam, Adolfo, Sheets and Cordell. I probably would have put him between Adolfo and Sheets.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) Where will Gillaspie fall on the prospect list for the Sox? He was the Rays' #10, but I imagine he'll be quite a bit lower in our system. Somewhere in the 20s? 50 FV on MLBPIPELINE. Cordell is the last 50 FV, and he is at 18. So I'd guess somewhere between 17 and 19.

Pretty nice deal. By no means is it super exciting, but Gillaspie will be a nice DH/1B option for the next few years. A few short months ago, he was a pretty legit prospect. Seems like a good deal for the Sox. Obviously Jennings has a couple more years of control, but the chances of both him being effective and the Sox actually competing in 2019 are pretty low. Nice move. He should slot in right around Cordell in the backend of the Sox top 20.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 08:35 PM) He's better than Hanson by about 20 miles. Not sure why Hanson is around. The Sox should be taking chances on just about any young player with potential upside they can get off waivers at the moment.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 12:18 PM) I don't mind that, but you also need people to eat innings, and a lot of these young guys will hit their inning limits come August. I've thought about Pelfrey to the bullpen before though too. His effectiveness, if I recall, actually goes up the second time people see him, but he is absolutely destroyed the third time. As a reliever, he might not be a terrible pitcher. Plus, you can put him back in the rotation for a few starts down the line if need be.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) Chicago White Sox‏Verified account @whitesox 53s53 seconds ago More The #WhiteSox have acquired minor-league outfielder Ryan Cordell from the Milwaukee Brewers in exchange for RHP Anthony Swarzak. Looks like the deal is finalized^ Glad to see it finalized.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:00 AM) Yeah and a team could easily say that they want to take on all/most of the contract in order to give up less. True. I didn't mean it in absolutes, but moreso that I hope we're open to eating a good chunk of his salary IF it improves the return.

I am sure he is available. But doubt the offers are there.

I hope the Sox are willing to eat the ~$5M and try to actually get something interesting back.

I bet he'll go up there in a week or two.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 08:53 AM) This bolded term...this basically means a regular on a lousy team, correct? I saw it yesterday and didn't know what it meant. At it again this morning, I see. Honestly though, the fact that nothing official has come makes you think there may be a hitch. With Cordell's reported back issues, it makes some sense. But would seem to me the Sox would have explored that before agreeing to the trade?

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 10:07 PM) What happened to Coats? Rays claimed him off waivers last summer. Pretty sure he tore his ACL couple days later.

Time to step away for the evening....

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 08:03 PM) See, I couldn't disagree more. I don't like this much at all. We've already got like 2-3 guys that can play center field. Presumably, this guy will come up and play left when Melky is gone, but Adam Engel is actually deserving of playing time right now and I think when Garcia returns, he deserves another chance as well. Would have much rather gotten an intriguing arm or something. I get the Swarzak was signed as a minor league FA, but let's not ignore what he accomplished up here; nor should we ignore his stuff. Dude can bring mid-90's heat with a wicked slider that he currently has penchant for locating wherever the hell he wants. I'm frustrated by this idea of comparing the value a player had when he was initially signed with the value he received back when traded. What we need to be considering is the value the player has given his current performance. If that means we get some mediocre prospect who might become a 4th OFer if he's lucky, I'd prefer to just f***ing let the guy close for the rest of the year and see if he'll resign with you. I should probably wait until I actually see this guy play, because it sounds like he is one hell of an athlete, but we are not short on athletes, from what I understand. Im not thrilled about the return either, but it's always better to get something rather than nothing for a team in the position of the Sox. Seems like some scouts really like him, and FG called him a 2nd division starter. I would have preferred a couple lower level guys that had more upside but more risk, but I'm OK with it overall. Just have a bit of a logjam of AAAA Of types now.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Any idea how close he is to returning? I wonder if the delay in official annocument has to do with medicals. Bruce Levine (FWIW) did say it wouldn't be announced tonight. Back issues aren't exactly ideal.

Meh. Certainly not exciting but whatever. Looks like he is currently on DL.

That was quick.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) I wouldn't object to keeping Melky around. When Abreu DH's, Melky plays LF and when Melky DH's Abreu can play 1B. Most of the Sox best hitting talent is a few years away anyway so Melky wouldn't be blocking any young talent. I got nothing against the Melkmeister. Nah. Between Avi, Engel, Delmonico, Leury, Willy, Liriano, May and Tilson we have enough options to cover to OF for the next 1.5 years. No reason to resign Melky.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) Please explain yourself I can't watch because its a damn day game again. I see 4 Sox have been HBP. Abreu twice. Someone said both of Abreu's look intentional. I asked if he did something to deserve it. Admittedly its a bit tough for a position player to do something to deserve being beaned, but seems a bit odd. Just curious cause I can't watched. Explained.

QUOTE (Nokona @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) Both Abreu HBPs were as intentional as it gets. Did he do something to deserve it?

Did any of the HBP look intentional? Can't watch today.