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QUOTE (hi8is @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) Effectively... Chris Sale = Yoan Moncada, Luis Robert, Michael Kopech, Luis Alexander Basebe, Victor Diaz Not really

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) They sent 31.5 million to us in the Sale deal. Not exactly

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) Can someone refresh me on the Moncada money from the Red Sox? The Red Sox paid the $31.5M signing bonus and all penalties.

Well this is a positive development.

Can he just announce his damn decision already?

So excited for Pelfrey and Covey to be out of this rotation.

Sox. $24.75M

QUOTE (bmags @ May 20, 2017 -> 11:37 AM) Except this already demands our 2017 class be garbage. We have a self imposed penalty box already. So what happens on the Sox had some big names lined up for J2, but they sign Robert? Basically they have to renege on those deals and that can't help for future dealings.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 20, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) On the one hand the Sox are peddling Quintana, for essentially a prospect the quality of Robert (plus some add-ons). And yet, in an open market, Q would go for almost triple Robert's value. And then there is the fact that the Sox invested $25 mill in Shields, which happens to be the ballpark amount for Robert. Given that, they should be willing to hit $25 mill or thereabouts. You do realize that whatever they pay Robert doubles right? So for the expenditure to be around $25M, they'd pay Robert $12.5M, which is going be at Lessard $10M shy of what he ultimately gets.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 20, 2017 -> 10:50 AM) Quintana and Swarzak to the Brewers for Ray, Diaz, Phillips and Gatewood. Who says no? The Sox. That deal would suck.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 20, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) Right on cue https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/inside-bas...ework-starters/ Certainly wouldn't want to hold Hahn accountable for anything....considering the sterling results the last 4+ years, the benefit of the doubt has been earned. But don't worry, I will credit him if the Sox sign Robert. That article does not say Hahn is pulling away from Robert.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 20, 2017 -> 09:21 AM) https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/red-sox/re...erious-trouble/ Price really struggled in his first rehab start. Red Sox could really use Frazier, Quintana or both, but at what cost? Devers, obviously... Could potentially buy low on Odor and Profar, but timeframe is off and Mazara/Gallo are higher in value... Gallo does not have more value than Odor.

Let's get a great start tonight Q. CG SO sounds nice.

That M's rotation is ugly.

QUOTE (FT35 @ May 17, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) I think so. He's young enough. I'm not an expert...just the dreaded superfan... But if he doesn't find success with us, I can see him catching on with a small-ball team like Oakland or KC who has a high-octane defense/low budget offensive approach to roster composition. He's not really THAT young. He'll be 28 in July. I think he should have options though, because I don't think he was added to the 40 man until 2014 or 2015, so he should have at least 1 left.

Nice post. Not that I expect the Sox to use it, but does Tyler have any options left?

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 17, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) Here's Dave Cameron's response to your proposal: Hmm. Interesting comment. Seems to downplay Rodgers and Dahl a bit, but I guess that is promising.

QUOTE (striker @ May 17, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) Quintana + Jones for Dahl, Rodgers, Hoffman, Almonte, Pedro Gonzalez. This would get me very excited. Which means it probably isn't possible. To get Dahl, Rodgers and Hoffman alone would be pretty fantastic. But to add more interesting pieces? Probably a pipe dream.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ May 17, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) While I agree it's premature to pencil Yolmer in as an everyday 2B, or to say his presence has much effect on Moncada, I would quickly and happily move Moncada to CF to make room for Yolmer if need be. Moncada will be up for his bat — IMO there's not reason to shoehorn him to 2B where he'll never be elite defensively when he could play CF, where he has a chance to be. I would hate to lose Yolmer's glove (or anyone's for that matter) just because we thought Moncada has to play 2B in the majors, when his bat will play anywhere and his speed + arm would transfer well (maybe even better) to the OF. This too. I think Moncada will be given every chance to stick at 2B, but I wouldn't be totally floored if he ended up in CF by 2019. I don't think Yolmer or Saladino (and I like them both) will be the ones to push Moncada off 2B though. I think it will be Moncada being less than ML average at 2B, a need in CF, and perhaps someone else playing 2B by that time.

When Moncada comes up, I think 3B will be split mainly between Saladino and Yolmer. They'll both get looks at 2B and SS when Tim and Moncada need breathers. Having too many useful guys isn't a problem. I doubt either will be traded. Both wouldn't have much value, and they're cheap. Makes more sense to keep them unless someone wants to give up something interesting.

I like the nobody's idea. Holmberg, Covey and Infante.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 16, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) Is Charlie Tilson still alive? Good question. Although pretty likely that Leury is our CF until he proves he isn't.

QUOTE (Dunt @ May 16, 2017 -> 03:34 PM) Minor league career statline: Yoan Moncada .294/.396/.484/.880 Ian Happ .275/.362/.472/.834 edit: misread Soxace post.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 15, 2017 -> 10:01 PM) I strongly suspect it's because many Sox fans are in the camp of agreeing it was long past time to rebuild and try something different and they are willing to buy-in for right now. I think the bolded is the key. If this team still blows in 2019, attendance is going to be awful.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 15, 2017 -> 06:39 PM) Fantastic - the Sox don't need him in 2 of those years, and possibly 3, but they'll have him. And I suspect that will happen to a lot of the players who the Sox should be full-bore on moving. They'll still have them. So what do you want? Seems to me you'll b**** either way.