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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) I guess what I'm wondering is this though - how much do we value this marginal upgrade: Pena .235 .273 .376 .650 Severino .271 .316 .337 .653 I realize Severino has shown well in some ML games and Penas was between AA and AAA and the AA numbers were better. But, why use Robertson on that if Pena is supposedly SEverino's defensive equal? Is Pena supposed to be an elite defensive catcher?

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) how about Robertson for Robles + Fedde? Robles was only available for Sale.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) Maybe the Giants are a fit for Frazier? http://www.knbr.com/2016/12/07/brisbee-gia...r-todd-frazier/ "Frazier is due $7.5M next year..." Too bad that's not accurate - his market would be quite a bit more robust.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:11 AM) Bob Nightengale‏ @BNightengale The #Nats are in Jansen sweepstakes but now concede they may have to use trade market, and #Whitesox closer David Robertson intrigues them RH is the man. There is no way Rizzo didn't try to get Robertson in the deal. But he probably wouldn't do that without Robles. Stuck to his guns. Severino and one of Nuese/Stevenson/Ward/Banks should do.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) Jones should have really good value and I believe someone said as much (maybe Dave Cameron). Yep, Passan said as much about Jones in his column today as well.

Seems like an interesting piece to me. His sinker looks pretty filthy in the link Y2J shared above.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 08:59 AM) Robertsons value is difficult to figure out. But I would be happy to deal for Severino. But the Nationals catchers aren't very good with Ramos gone so maybe they are keeping him. Yah, was a bit surprised to not see him added to the Nats deal with Robertson going back. I think it signals that they either were still shooting for Chapman and Jansen and/or want to keep Severino. Like you said, they don't have much else.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) The meetings end when the Rule 5 is completed. Travel day. Don't expect anything today, and maybe not until next week. Ya, generally don't see much action on day 4 after Rule 5.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:29 PM) http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=cws It is just our top 30 prospects, not a team by team ranking. Yah, I've seen that.

Anyone seen updated prospect rankings per team since the trades ? Curious to see where the White Sox are ranked now .

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:46 PM) After the Puig Mania you put us through, you're not allowed to be skeptical of Cuban players. I'm still traumatized by it and I never made it through a quarter of your posts. Does anyone actually read his generally wildly off topic ramblings?

I don't think RH is about to give Q and Jose away... Q especially is going to be very expensive.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:12 PM) I would think Rodgers is an untouchable for the Rockies. Perhaps, but we thought Moncada and Lopez were untouchable. Plus Rodgers is blocked for the time being. Rox infield is stacked.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Two of the top 10 RHP prospects in baseball isn't bad. Not sure what Dunning is going to be, back end guy or in the pen, but good pick up. It appears the strategy is to focus on guys that are fairly developed and take a lot of the projection out of the hands of the scouting department. It probably cost a bit in terms of quantity, but a lot less risk in a deal like this than one that includes guys a long ways from their ceilings. 3 of top 8 including Kopech.

A little bumemd we couldn't get Robles, or at least a few bats at the backend of hte deal like Kieboom and Severino, but i am cool with it. Lopez and Giolito both have TOR potential.

If no Robles or Turner (obvious), I think we need both Giolito and Lopez, or one of those 2 and about 4-5 others.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) No Robles. Ken Rosenthal ‏ Sources: #Nationals close to acquiring Eaton from #WhiteSox. Robles not in deal. Hm, curious to see what it looks like then.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) I sniff a Robles + Fedde + Severino deal for Eaton That doesn't get me that excited. I want Robles + Giolito/Lopez.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) rockies have to be completely out of this now right? I am sure they have interest in Q.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) What about something like Abreu + Putnam for David Dahl swap with the Rockies? Gets them a natural 1B, allows Desmond to move to LF, and gets them the bullpen help they are seeking. I'd love to get our hand on David Dahl.

Wow...my favorite two Sox gone in 26 hours. Hopefully Robles and Giolito or Lopez is in the deal.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) They're not being packaged to the Nats because Turner would have to headline the deal. Don't let Metallica man see this post!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:41 PM) A reasonable proposal or a proposal that is purposefully light because it's coming from just one org? Quintana - #2 Robles/#4 Fedde/#8 Stevenson/#14 Severino Eaton - #3 Lopez/#7 Neuse/#11 Banks/#30 Reetz This leaves then with their #1, 5, 6, 9 & 10 guys still intact. Does it hurt them? Yes. Are they much better now? Yes. And guess what? If they lose Harper in two years, they can move Q and Eaton then to restock much of that system. That deal for Eaton is garbage. Don't like the deal for Q either.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) As much as we all want Turner it's not going to happen. Maybe a Gioloto, Robles, Lopez, Servino, Difo, Freede. I can also see us getting back other MLB guys along with Gioloto, Robles, and Lopez such as Ross or Taylor or something along those lines. But there aren't going to give up Turner it just isn't going to happen. Ya, I think we all know that. Just spitballing at this point

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) If you want 3 top 50 prospects and 7 other players, you didn't learn much yesterday. Yah, well, still a bit surprised that the backend of that deal wasn't stronger, but this is two players versus one. 4+4=8. I think Ross, Giolito, Robles, Lopez, Kieboom, Severino and maybe 1 or 2 others isn't crazy for two guys like Eaton and Q with 9 years of combined control for crazy AAVs.