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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) Trying to compete with Sale and Quintana has worked exactly zero times. It's time for something else. Ugh. This is stupid. The Sox would have traded Sale and Q if they got the offers they wanted. Clearly they didn't.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) I think more frustration is rooted in the fact that there are a lot of assets they should have moved prior to the deadline. I don't think you move Melky and Frazier, 2 of your 3 best offensive pieces, if you keep Sale and Q. Same could be said for Robertson.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:32 PM) Which is the wrong way. That is an opinion. I get your stance, but you don't trade Q and Sale unless you get what you want, and so long as you have those dudes, you may as well try to compete.

At this point, trading Sale or Q is just gonna piss me off regardless, because they'd be leaving so many other trade opportunities in the dust. If you trade one of those two, you may as well trade everyone not locked up long term - Melky, Frazier, Robertson being the ones that may bring back the most - because you arent competing in 2017 without Sale and/or Q. At this point, I have to imagine we get one trade, at most.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) That team is still terrible. This team is 3 games under .500 with Abreu and Frazier, their two best players, having the worst years of their career. I don't think its crazy for that team to be in contention. And if not, then they can trade everyone next July. Its how the Sox roll.

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:20 PM) They are going to hope Tilson can be an everyday CF, sign a FA bat to play OF/DH(Reddick, Desmond type) and a C Ramos/Weiters. This sellout thing just isn't going to happen. That's fine, but 2017 is a boom or bust year because then in 2018, they have to replace Melky, Lawrie and Frazier. This just makes the most sense to me, assuming they can't get the king ransom's for Sale and Q. I'd try to get Carlos Gomez on a 1 year deal. Let Tilson be the 4th OF.

I see the chances of Shields opting out as about 5%. The dude isn't going to get a deal at $22M AAV over the next two. He'd be an idiot to opt out.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 26s26 seconds ago The Chicago #Whitesox say that unless something dramatically changes, will keep Chris Sale and Jose Quintana. Good, that means they are not budging, and they shouldn't.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 01:06 PM) I would be shocked if it is. Considering how he was used, despite him not being the greatest, it was a sign of the towel being waved. Of course, except for Sale and Q, most of the Sox "chips" can probably clear waivers. Who, exactly? Frazier, Melky, Robertson, Gonzalez, Lawrie, Eaton aren't clearing waivers.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:59 AM) For Jharel Cotton...their #13 prospect. Has to be more. And the Dodgers can't expect Hill to push them over hte top. He's been good, but I wouldn't get too excited about him pushing them through in a playoff series. Holmes, Montas and Cotton. Not bad for 2 months of 2 slightly above average players.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 27m27 minutes ago Some rumblings in recent days about a deal that could send Yasiel Puig to the White Sox for James Shields. @Buster_ESPN says CWS want Puig. I approve of this trade. Actually floated it last night before this talk came up.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) While there is a possibility Dodgers are going to swing Reddick/Puig out to us, I'd put it more likely that we're done. If we do sell in the offseason, I hope it is without our current management. If we buy... The Sox aren't done. They may not blow the whole thing up, but they're not done. And Reddick would hold no appeal to the Sox. He's a FA at year end.

QUOTE (Tony @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:57 AM) Dodgers made their move. Reddick and Hill. For Jharel Cotton...their #13 prospect. Has to be more. And the Dodgers can't expect Hill to push them over hte top. He's been good, but I wouldn't get too excited about him pushing them through in a playoff series.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) From Dave Cameron's deadline chat today: Jimmy: Benintendi/Rodriguez/Devers/Swihart for Sale. Deal? Dave: That's a big overpay for Boston. C'mon Dave, big overpay? Benintendi and Devers are the only two that excite me. Rodriguez is a meh back of the rotation arm for me. Swihart is a throw in. Benintendi excites me, and Devers is a definitely a nice prospect, but further away. I wouldn't be only OKAY with that trade for Q, not for Sale.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) Puig for Shields straight up will never happen. Puig doesn't have much value.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:35 AM) White Sox intrigued of Benintendi, ERod, Swihart, and Devers package from Red Sox for Chris Sale. NOOOOOOOOO

What's gonna be most frustrating to me is if Sale is moved, but Sox hold onto pieces like Frazier, Melky, Robertson, Shields, Gonzalez. If you trade Sale, trade everyone cause you're going to suck anyway. I don't think he's going to get traded, but we're sort of running out of time to make other moves if he is.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:56 AM) I'm sure it was just a fabrication of my mind. I occasionally see random paragraphs of text on my computer screen for no reason at all. I read and comprehend the content that is pertaining to today's events even though they do not exist. Hey...gotta go, I am going to eat this banana that just popped out of my DVD drive. I'll make sure to post more delusional content later. haha, wait...what?

QUOTE (FT35 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Rosenthal just removed a tweet after 3 minutes that said BREAKING: White Sox Red Sox agree on Sale. Sox would receive Benintendi and Devers as a part of the deal. No Moncada. Those guys are good...but if we trade Sale and it doesn't bring back a team's #1 prospect...wow. Are we sure it was the real Rosenthal? edit: someone beat me to it. Thanks for sharing, FT35.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:28 AM) If the reports are true and the best prospect in this package is someone ranked where Avi Garcia was ranked when we got him, you laugh and keep Chris Sale. Period. While I agree that the Sox should only trade Sale or Q if the return in unprecedented, I find it very hard to believe the Sox haven't gotten at least some offers that include top 20 prospects. Both of their values dwarf the values of some guys that have been traded for top 20 talent within the past couple weeks. That doesn't mean the package was sufficient, but there's no way Sale/Q hasn't garner an offer including a blue chip prospect. But that's not going to stop Soxtalk from saying "we could have have Benintendi, Moncada, and Kopech for Sale. Hahn is such an idiot."

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD 3m3 minutes ago Chicago, IL Just texted my guy. "It's crazy how quiet it's been... I got nothing" Life is awesome being a White Sox fan, said nobody His source probably realized he should stop leaking info to this guy.

Agreed on Sanchez. Saladino should be at 2B everyday until Brett comes back.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:58 PM) If the Red Sox won't include Moncada or Benintendi....then give us Devers + Eduardo Rodriguez. 3B Devers, SP Rodriguez, SP Kopech, 3B Chavis, and OF Basabe for Quintana. No thanks.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:25 PM) For me any Sale deal starts with Moncada, Ben, and Kop. If they aren't willing, too bad. And yes, I am willing to wait until the offseason. Really that simple.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 10:16 PM) One reason for stagnation over the past 10 years has been terrible scouting and talent evaluation. That resulted in bad trades and some wasted first round Draft picks like Beckham, Fulmer, Courtney Hawkins, Jared Mitchell. If better decisions had been made I have no doubt that Reinsdorf would have given management what they needed to get free agents to become competitive. Fulmer is a wasted 1st round pick now? Lol, so many quality posts on here today.