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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) Any one with any sense of actually building a winning organization that can contend year after year. But people who admire what the Padres did last season would welcome this type of proposal. I just wonder why the Brewers are rebuilding when they have such an elite core like that. A good reliever, a good catcher with 1.5 years of control and Ryan Braun in an "elite core"? lolz.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) I would much rather trade for pitching as it does not seem like we have much coming up from our system. We could use another starter, sure, but Sale-Quintana-Rodon-Fulmer leaves the Sox in pretty good shape for next several years. Plus there are some decent arms as insurance policies in the minors. I'd take another arm, but we need a good OF bat or a legit DH (preferably from the left side) much more, IMO.

Love these unis.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 07:11 PM) 7 for 3 trade with the Brewers, with Sox taking on all money. Who says no (other than GreenSox)? Sox Get: Jonathon Lucroy Ryan Braun Will Smith Brewers Get: Carson Fulmer Jordan Guerrero Trey Michalczewski Jacob May (or Adam Engel) Jhoandro Alfaro Carlos Sanchez Matt Davidson New Sox Lineup: 1. Eaton, RF 2. Abreu, 1B 3. Braun, LF 4. Cabrera, DH 5. Frazier, 3B 6. Lucroy, C 7. Lawrie, 2B 8. Jackson, CF 9. Saladino, SS Ryan Braun would be pretty neat, but that seems like a lot to give up for a guy who's value is tarnished, and an injury prone C you control for only ~215 games. I'm sure the Brewers would want more, but that seems steep to me.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) How many experienced AL hitters are going to give you a return of an 850+ OPS against RHP and not cost something significant? Beltran is one of the better choices out there, because of his age, playoff experience and contract. Kelly Johnson only has a 548 OPS against RHP this year and ONLY 715 over the much more indicative three year timeframe. Not sure how that clearly makes us better. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/...ing3/aaron-hill Aaron Hill would seem to be the better choice, based on this season. Otoh, coming from NL to AL, he's not LH, he plays a position we don't have a pressing need at, so unless he could put up current 812 OPS for the White Sox at DH and not his close to 700 splits (they're basically even over 2013-2015), then it's not a big improvement either. They would be better off with Rollins against LHP and then ANYONE NOT NAMED AVI GARCIA against RHP. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/30867/jerry-sands LOL. Career-wise, Jerry Sands has 549 and 551 splits against LH/RH pitching, about what you'd expect. WOEFUL. However, if you go by his minor league numbers, he's been at over 800 the last couple of seasons against RHP...especially for Columbus, where he was at 940 against RHP and 970 against LHP. But how much stock do you want to put in AAA numbers? I am not saying I want Kelly Johnson over Beltran, just think Kelly Johnson would be a nice dude to have on the bench for his flexibility. Beltran would be fine, I'd just prefer to see someone like Cargo for the bat, but realize that probably not going to happen.

QUOTE (gosoxgo2005 @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) Let's trade for Bryant, Arrieta, Kershaw, Trout, Arrenado too while we're at it Huh? His proposals weren't that farfetched.... I too think Kelly Johnson would be nice addition to the bench. Hope we shoot higher than Carlos Beltran for the big bat acquisition though.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) Is Hayes a contender for a Sox bench spot? Makes more sense than Sands with Shuck also on the roster, IMO. Need Austin to get healthy, though.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) Yeah, I would do that move in a heartbeat. Few reasons. First off, I wouldn't be outraged or anything if that move was made, but... I like Fulmer. If Fulmer is in the deal, I don't think the Sox should be picking up the full tab on Cargo. I wouldn't necessarily say that McMahon is a "better asset" than Fulmer - but its close. We all know the Sox develop pitchers better than hitters, and I suppose I'd rather see a guy closer to the majors than McMahon if Fulmer is the price, even though he is only a year or two away. While the Sox aren't exactly stacked at 3B in the minors, it is one of their better insulated positions. I am a big fan of Trey Michalczewski and think he is the third baseman in 2018 after Frazier leaves in FA. But there are other options on the farm in Davidson and Delmonico that could feasibility become average major leagues, even if that likelihood isn't high. If I am trading Fulmer, I think I'd prefer a high upside OF coming back. Basically, I think the Rockies need to kick in some cash in that deal if Fulmer is dealt, along with Engel and Danish. I do like the idea, just not that particular proposal, though it seems to be a pretty well thought out offer for a hypothetical.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 1, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) Todd Frazier's BABIP is 191. Should normalize at some point to his 280 career average. That will be fun. That's wild. The 16 HRs help though.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 1, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) I'd do that trade. I wouldn't.

Yeah, I don't get it.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 26, 2016 -> 08:12 AM) I'd do Adams and Michalczewski for Lucroy for sure. Brewers probably wouldn't though. Tough pill to swallow for a guy you control for only 1.5 years. I think Trey is the replacement for Frazier in 2018. With so many guys off the books after next year, giving away the few offensive pieces we have in the minors doesn't seem wise.

QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ May 24, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) Living in Florida and watching the Rays almost every game, I have always been a Loney fan, great glove at first and would be a nice backup for Abreu and is a damn good contact hitter, would be a good fill in at DH also. I don't need to see Sands anymore. I agree. He's nothing special, but an upgrade to Sands for sure. Just call up Shuck and send Kahnle back down. Acquiring Loney for nothing don't preclude the Sox from acquiring a better LH bat later in the summer when the sticker price drops.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 24, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) Last I heard he was destroying the ball in Japan. Haven't checked in a while though. Yup - didn't realize he went to Japan. .310/.401/.592 with 10 2B, 13 HR and 35 RBI in in 174 AB. Its the Dayan we had all hoped for!

Just curious - anyone know what Dayan Viciedo is up to this year?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 24, 2016 -> 08:03 AM) Avila is a real problem at catcher. Outside of drawing some walks, his bat is completely useless. Whether it's Lucroy or a lesser option, we desperately need to add another catcher IMO. Agreed. Time to let Navarro take 80% of the ABs. Avila can catch Sale and thats it IMO. The dude's only plan at the plate is to walk, and if that doesn't work, he's pretty much an automatic out. His ABs are hideous.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 23, 2016 -> 12:20 PM) He's due the prorated amount this season plus $13.5 in 2017 and $13.5 in 2018, with a $1 million buyout for 2019. That is what pitchers cost. I'd rather have Santana for a low prospect cost and take on the contract than someone like Teheran where they'd definitely be trading Fulmer. This.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 23, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Because he's already 33 years old and is due at least $40 million through 2019. Unless he came very cheap, I want nothing to do with him. I bet you could get Santana for next to nothing prospect-wise. The Twins would be happy to save the doe. And realistically, Santana is worth what he gets paid ($13.5M per year). Just look at last winter's FA market for starters. I am not super in love in Santana, but it'd be a nice move and decent way to spend LaRoche's $. Team still needs another good left handed stick, though.

I don't think we'll see him until September, and I am fine with that.

QUOTE (Dunt @ May 20, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) I dont know, caulfield has been here awhile Haha, Touche.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 20, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) I know it's not representative of their fanbase as a whole, but as someone who frequents /r/baseball (Reddit) and Fangraphs a lot, their fans in both communities have become absolutely insufferable over the past year (and this started happening well before the World Series). I don't doubt they're a bunch of idiots (most fan bases are) - but when trolling some other teams message board, you can expect to be treated with some disdain.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ May 20, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) I'm starting to hate their fans. Because you, a white sox fan, decided to go over to their message board and start talking s***? By the way, how do you have the time to do that? C'mon man. Whats the point? A Royals fan would be received the same way if the roles were reversed. That said, fu** the Royals!

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 19, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) A 3/4 type starter is the only hope of a playoff. ???. Cmon now.

QUOTE (joejoedairy @ May 19, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) I think we should make an offer for James Shields. Price tag is a little high but its only two more years after this one and perhaps SD could throw in a couple million. I'm thinking an offer like Sanchez and EJ and maybe another lower level prospect. Is that enough? The Padres would give the Sox James Shields. If you're giving them Sanchez and EJ, they need to pick up more than "a couple million".

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 17, 2016 -> 06:26 PM) We're almost to the point where we can field a team of former Sox prospects. Trayce Thompson OF Micah Johnson 2B/OF Montas (granted, he's injured) Chris The Dragon Devenski SP Gio Gonzalez SP Marcus Semien SS Daniel Hudson Closer Chris Young OF Chris Carter 1B/DH Josh Phegley C Chris Large Mouth Bassitt, SP That team would be a mediocre in the Pacific League. Gross.