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This is literally the dumbest thing ever. Just retire, and make a corresponding move so we can move on. So many blowhard comments in this thread it's almost comical. One poster in particular.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) I would bet there is a guy Drake LaRoche's age or younger around the Sox clubhouse 162 games this season even if LaRoche sticks with retiring. If it was so burdensome, why was this addressed in March of 2016, 13 months after this has been going on? Dude, take a chill pill. You complain about everything - step away from the computer and have a beer!!

If they eat all but $20M, and Hanley agrees to forgo the vesting option. Otherwise, no thanks. Also not the LH bat we need.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 02:18 PM) Again, you're just ignoring my explanation and are completely misinterpreting my stance. Taking me out of context and telling me to chill, saying "smh" (these aren't you, just examples) doesn't make sense when I agree with you guys. You have a way of over reacting to minor things.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) Our organization looks horrible now. Great SMH

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Nobody in history has ever been more right about anything. Can you post for those of us that cannot see?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) I dont think what they did was wrong, but there will be the riteous writers who will rail against it. I think allowing it in the first place was wrong, though True, but its the world we live. People will b**** about anything. Anyone who understands the game will understand why the White Sox did what they did.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) I dont think what they did was wrong, but there will be the riteous writers who will rail against it. I think allowing it in the first place was wrong, though True, but its the world we live. People will b**** about anything. Anyone who understands the game will understand why the White Sox did what they did.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:11 PM) right or wrong, the Sox are gonna look bad Disagree. MLB clubhouse is no place for a kid.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) I wouldn't want a kid in the clubhouse if I were a ML player. If I'm in a room of adults, I'm gonna talk and swear like one. I don't want kids around to hear that or for them to be around to restrict me from expressing myself. I agree. I could see how this would be super annoying to other teammates.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) I really have no issue with either side of this. The White Sox have every right to make a rule against children if they feel it affects winning baseball games. If family is that important to LaRoche and he would rather walk away from the game and the money, then that's his business, he has every right to. Yup. See ya later, Adam.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:08 PM) As I said in the other thread, I don't recall seeing that management tried talking him out of it, it was his teammates. I recall Rick saying he sat down with AL for a couple hours and tried to understand his decision but that his mind was just made up. Just doesn't seem likely, but I suppose possible. Now maybe the Sox told him that he's gonna sit on the bench the whole season, and he didn't want to do that, but I also find that a little hard to believe since he has a pretty clear role (assuming he isn't seriously injured). EDIT: DA summarized the quotes in the other AL thread.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) That is the way that most are taking it, and the most likely meaning. Why do something to force him to retire, and then allow the team to try to talk him out of it? Just doesn't add up.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:23 AM) Bob Nightengale ✔ ‎@BNightengale Be interesting to see if #WhiteSox pay Adam LaRoche a portion of salary; The Mets are paying Michael Cuddyer $3.5 million upon retirement. I feel like Rick wouldn't have acted as surprised if this was the case. He seemed sincerely unaware that LaRoche was contemplating retirement.

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 05:52 AM) I don't really understand the Morneau talk. As I see it, with LaRoche gone, the Sox now have four outfielders fighting for three starting spots, plus the DH position, and that's not counting whoever makes the team as the fourth outfielder (Shuck or Sands). So that would be Jackson in CF, Eaton in RF/LF and either Cabrera or Garcia in RF/LF with the other acting as the team's primary DH. Unless Avi gets moved, where would Morneau fit on the roster? DH against RHP, something Avi isn't very good at.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) Justin Morneau will never sign with the White Sox, ever. Even if we were the last team on Earth. Not happening. Why do you keep saying this? I bet he'd sign with the Sox over sitting out a year, even if he didn't like the team for whatever reason.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:02 PM) To DH is a possibility, I'm saying outfield-wise, Melky will be in LF only. Gotcha.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) They aren't moving Melky out of LF; Eaton is the one who will move around. ? I think Melky is the pretty logical one to move to DH, especially if they somehow find a LH OF.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) Better with than without him ? Disagree, but we'll never know if he would have helped or hurt. Could be a huge blessing . Morneau could probably be had for Latos money and that leaves money for the trade deadline. Despite missing most of last season Morneau came back to hit .338 with a .423 OBP in 78 AB's in Sept/Oct. Doesn't have the power he used to but still hits righties very good and isn't terrible against lefties. He would be the obvious choice except for injury history. Also an .835 career OPS at the Cell. And it would really piss off Twins fans. I am cool with Morneau on a $2-3M deal. Still have lots of money to play with at the deadline or for the draft.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) "Like with Cuddyer’s retirement, it almost certainly comes with a buyout, so he’s actually not walking away from that much money. In other words, LaRoche probably chose something like $5-10 million to be home with his kids over $12 million to sit on the bench." From the comments section on a Fangraphs article, so the Sox may not be getting back as much money as expected from this decision. I kind of doubt the Sox were offering something like that.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) Who's our backup 1B now? Honest question. DH will no doubt be a rotation, something along the lines of Eaton/Melky/Avi, in addition to Frazier and Abreu, probably. Frazier can play 1B. Avila can play 1B. Saladino can play 1B. Sands can play 1B. I'm not worried about it. Any of the other infielders count play 1B.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 12:34 PM) Doubt many will agree with me but unless we do something.. this hurts us. He was an OBP bounceback candidate for us. He had a more reasonable bounceback possibility than Garcia, who has no track record (vs righties) to bounce back to, really I agree with this. I was expecting LaRoche to be decent this year. But if they reallocate this $13M to a LH power bat....I am more interested. Ethier would look good as the Sox RF/DH!

Avi's spot on the roster looks safer now.

Wow. First reaction is I hope he and his family are OK. Second reaction is we have $13M to spend.

I went 87. But wouldn't be surprised with a 5 game swing either way. Hopefully the right way.