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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) John Manuel ‏@johnmanuelba 1h Did our #WhiteSox top 30; newly acquired Matt Davidson would slot in No. 4, right where @BaseballAmerica had him in #Diamondbacks system Who would be #1-#3? Abreu Johnson Semien? I am guessing Eaton and Avi are no longer considered "prospects"..

LOVE LOVE LOVE the trade! Rick obviously has a vision here, and I like it. This young core is very exciting, and I have a feeling Rick is not done yet. I wish Addison nothing but the best in the desert. Great guy, and very talented. I am happy to hear the Snakes will give him 9th inning duties. As for the bench, let's let the rest of the offseason play out. As other have mentioned, Gillaspie doesn't make a ton of sense on a roster with Davidson, but I'd still much rather have him around than Keppinger. Hopefully they can find someone to take Kepp off our hands for .75 cents on the dollar. Very exciting news...I love what Hahn has done to this team since last July. Next year may be painful, but the sox are going to have a boatload of cash next offseason. Give Gordo, Viciedo, and Flowers / Phegley one more year to prove if they're everyday MLBers. If not, go out and add to this young core and do battle for the Central in 2015.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 13, 2013 -> 11:17 AM) No he's not. You are making things up. Gordon was certainly one of the better defenders in the game at 2B in 2012. Last year...not so much.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 05:58 PM) I'll just go ahead and post my spitball trade here, instead of the winter meetings thread, since this isn't a rumor, just an idea..... Jays-Sox-Mariners. Sox get 3B Brett Lawrie and SS Chris Taylor Mariners get CF Colby Rasmus and P Scott Snodgress Jays get 2B Gordon Beckham, RP Nate Jones, C Jesus Montero, and P Edwin Diaz Jays would have to go out an get another 3B, tho.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 05:58 PM) I'll just go ahead and post my spitball trade here, instead of the winter meetings thread, since this isn't a rumor, just an idea..... Jays-Sox-Mariners. Sox get 3B Brett Lawrie and SS Chris Taylor Mariners get CF Colby Rasmus and P Scott Snodgress Jays get 2B Gordon Beckham, RP Nate Jones, C Jesus Montero, and P Edwin Diaz That'd be pretty freakin' neat, and I like Beckham (well, sorta). Both AA and Hahn have suggested they're working on 3-ways with some momentum within the past couple hours.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:52 PM) As of now, I would say: vs RHP Eaton 8 De Aza 7 AGarcia 9 Abreu 3 Dunn DH Ramirez 6 Beckham 4 Gillaspie 5 Phegley 2 vs LHP Eaton 8 Beckham 4 AGarcia 9 Abreu 3 Konerko DH Viciedo 7 Ramirez 6 Gillaspie 5 Phegley 2 Bench: Flowers, LGarcia Kepp should play against LHP. A Gillaspie / Kepp straight platoon should actually be fairly productive, assuming Kepp remembers how to hit a baseball. That said, if a real 3B becomes available, I don't think twice.

Any affirmation of this yet?

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:09 PM) Danks for Gardner straight up even is probably a reach for the Sox, let alone with more thrown in When they say '3rd or 4th starter'.......they mean lower total money than what Danks makes. Many 3rd and 4th starters on the open market have gotten multi-year deals at annual values north of $10M. If Danks is healthy, and throwing like he can, he is a bargain at that rate. If he pitches like he did last year...he's a bit overpaid. But the likely result of somewhere in between and Danks is paid just about right. But now is not the right time to trade Danks.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 08:07 PM) I don't want to trade Sale. Me either. He is really f'in good. That said, if the Dbacks were ever dumb enough to offer some of the sillier deals thrown out here, I'd pull the trigger if I were Hahn. Say, Bradley, Skaggs, Gregorious, Trahan and Davidson for Sale and Alexei - just fills so many holes. But, that's not happening.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 03:52 PM) I agree, there's no reason to carry a backup 1b on this roster for Abreu when Dunn can be the emergency fill-in. Abreu should be pushed past 150 games this year. Seriously though, compare the two situations. We're so worried about backups for 1b for some reason that we have 4 different guys on the roster who can backup 1b (5 if you count Flowers). And I think that's a great illustration of why I'm still convinced this takes away a bunch of playing time from Abreu and hurts the roster. You're still b****ing about this? Doesn't your head hurt?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 07:51 PM) So the exact same guys will produce more than last year now that they're both a year older. No. Dunn will play far less against LHP and Konerko will play far less against RHP. Ya know, to maximize production. Figured you were capable of figuring that out.

Under control for 3 more seasons, so maybe Coop sees something in him he likes.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 05:14 PM) Let's take Jesus Montero, too His career behind the plate is ova.

Ronald Belisaro will make more money that PK14 next year.

Hmmm. Well, the pen could use an arm, so this works, but I would think they could have gotten similar production out of a cheaper scrapheap pickup, and/or Petricka / Webb.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 06:14 PM) That the White Sox used the final backup IF on the roster at least 50% more than the role Konerko will get if he just subs for Dunn, and that's without Alexei ever getting a day off. For Konerko to just get as much usage as the last IF on the White Sox roster he's going to take 100+ PA's from Abreu. Time to step away and take a breath man. My first reaction was very similar to yours, but 36 hours later it is time to move on. While the move totally jams up the bench, a Dunn / Konerko platoon will certainly produce a slash line that well exceeds the .214/.294/.341 line White Sox DHs posted last year. Paulie will take minimal ABs away from Abreu. The guy is used to playing 90 games per year - he is going to need a breather once every 10 days or so, whether Paulie was on the team or not. The SOX will and should take it slow with Jose. Paulie will DH against most LHP when feeling well. Look, I don't love the move either, but for $2.5M, it is certainly not the worst thing in the world.

Doesn't make a ton of sense, but oh well. So long as they use a Dunn / Konerko straght platoon at 1st base. Definitely silly.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:59 PM) One thing that really concerns me is TB seems to know what they are doing. If this guy is a decent platoon guy or more, why did they spend so much money (if you consider the extension and assumming Bell's money plus paying Molina some cash)to get away from this guy? Maddon is the platoon king. Hannigan and Molina will platoon.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) Trade Lobaton to the Royals to back up Sal Perez for a possible bullpen arm and we start Phegs. Lobaton will assure me not buying the MLB package this year. It's like we are trying to lose games rather than spend some money and make a splash and win. Chicago is a big market city. Time to win again. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) $10 mill is the bare minimum. I'd rather not give up more than $5 million, but if the prospect coming back is good enough, you can do it because it serves essentially the same purpose as trading him on July 31st in that instance. You can't include $10 million and then get Mr. 83 MPH Fastball in return. The most likely scenario is that Dunn is the Sox cleanup hitter on Opening Day. As he should be.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 25, 2013 -> 01:54 PM) For it to make sense for the Pirates to bring Dunn in to be a platoon partner, the White Sox would have to eat $13 million of his salary and the Pirates would trade a piece back that is virtually meaningless, not more than organizational depth. Really, for it to make sense for the White Sox, the most they can realistically include is $10 million, and you need a half-ass decent prospect in return in that situation - a player with Brandon Jacobs' ceiling would be fine. If you can't get that, you may as well hang onto Dunn until the trade deadline and attempt to deal him then when the demand is going to be greater for his services and you can likely just get someone to eat the remainder of his salary (or pick up a smaller amount at that time). Trading Dunn + anything over $5M for anything less than a good prospect would be such a dumb move. I am no Dunn fan, but if the SOX have any chance at competing next year, Dunn is going to have a big year. If he does have a big year, you can move him midseason for a decent prospect and probably kick in no $$. Paying Dunn $10M to play on another team all season is not a good move.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Nov 24, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Ridiculous. Not worth that kind of money IMO. And also reinforces Alexei Ramirez has legitimate trade value.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 22, 2013 -> 02:14 PM) Alexei for Matt Adams. Go. I hope you're kidding.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 07:00 PM) I don't think Semien is a true 3B just like Beckham wasn't and they forced him there.. I want Semien to play but not at 3B unless somehow Beckham turns it around. Right now I would rather have Gillaspie then Beckham in the line up. George Kottaras just DFA. Not a long term solution, but I'd still get him in camp unless they plan on getting something better. He'd be a natural platoon with Phegley, or Flowers.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 06:03 PM) Not overrating him. If you look at one of my post I said he had a chance to be above average. I know he isn't great or will be great but I think he is better then Freese and I would much rather have him on this team then Freese. And he is younger and left handed which is what we need. I personally want him to get another chance at 3rd this year. He'll be in the mix, don't you worry. If they go out and get a legitimate 3B, cya later, but I don't see that happening, and Freese is not that guy.