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Crazy day…catching up on this thread. So many of you just jump off the cliff the second someone says something slightly negative. So comical. Relax peeps. Sox aren’t giving away Liam.

What happens if Romy and Sosa just suck? There is nothing wrong with bringing in back up plans. Those guys are gonna get crushed by big league RHP.

Yah, also don’t love trading Liam for guys that don’t impact 2023. But hard to turn down a talent like Baty.

Yoan is such a good 3B tho. Moncada to 2B and Batty to 3B is a major defensive downgrade in the infield. Obviously we’re getting cart in front of horse quite a bit here, but I just don’t love that idea. But it’s probably the only one that makes all the pieces fit. If Yoan doesn’t start hitting more, he’s gonna be a utility piece in his next deal anyway so he may not be against it.

Not saying I don't want Baty - but where would he play, both now and over the next 2 years while Moncada is on the roster. Sox have done a good job improving the defense so far this offseason, moving Moncada off 3B seems counterintuitive. As does sticking a 3B that plays some LF because he isn't that good of a 3B in RF. Moncada to 2B downgrades the defense everywhere. Again - not poopooing it persay - the bat is a great fit - I am just curious how you re-arrange the defense.

Well when your owner approves half a billion dollar payrolls, prospects become slightly less important.

Yah, I don’t really see it. I guess Batty + McCann + Escobar for Liam would save the Mets like $7-8M (+ the tax) but I kind of doubt they care that much about that and is JR really going to approve adding more payroll?

So Pal seemed to indicate yesterday that Correa to Mets could be good for the Sox, presumably tied to Liam to Mets rumor. Not sure if Ottavino changes that, but worth mentioning now that Correa is indeed a Met.

If you’re going to flip Hendriks for Jansen, at least take back Biggio or Espinal or Gurriel or even Merrifield in the deal. I don’t love any of those fits persay and obviously their values aren’t all the same, but they can all play IF and OF and are easy upgrades on what we have at 2B and can be part of the bridge to Colas in RF.

NBB may have a legit source (not 100% sold on that), but he definitely doesn’t know as much as he leads on. He acts like he’s in the room.

If Correa were to become available again, have to imagine the Twins rethink that final offers of theirs long and hard. Their fanbase is in shambles.

Right.

Blehhh. Have a hard time seeing how moving TA benefits the Sox.

Grandal himself has said he’s feeling much better though. Definitely a take it for what it’s worth mentality, but he literally cannot be any worse.

Ottavino to Mets.

Signing Grandal was 1000000000% a great move. Sox need to make more moves like that, not less. Sox fans can't have it both ways and complain that Sox don't sign FAs and then complain when they have to pay them on the backend of their deal.

Sox better find some SP depth if Burke isn't going to factor in until August. He's currently 2nd in line.

What are the allegations Yaz is a bad teammate? I have yet to see those and it certainly doesn’t look that way to me.

If you can make it an even $ swap, taking McCann back without moving Yaz and then trading Seby for some rotation depth makes some sense. Got to have that trade lined up tho; Seby should have some value after his 2022, and I don't want to just DFA him. But yeah, I don't even know why I am going down this McCann rabbit hole.

Yeah, I would think the general idea is 1) they have too many catchers; and 2) they would like to dump some money. Yaz + Leury for McCann + Escobar does neither. They get a more expensive catcher, and a far worse infielder. It doesn't solve either of their needs.

75% of this board was in shambles when he left. Dude's always been a meh player. Was solid for the Sox, but yeah....definitely would have been an awful deal to beat the one the Mets gave him.

What does this solve for the Mets, exactly?

I love it if he's in AAA. He's such a good guy to have around the clubhouse. My guess is if he's settling for milb deal in December, he didn't have many options. But I totally agree with you - there should be multiple options used before we resort to giving Billy Hamilton an actual 26 man roster spot. I like Kevin Pillar; he should be pretty cheap but he certainly cannot play IF.

Touché.

I think these are the best FA options. Unlikely Sox don’t make a trade at this point and I’m guessing this role is filled via that, whatever it may be. Also Profar has played so little IF recently that it concerns me a bit, but otherwise love that fit.