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Yeah, Brantley would be a mixed feelings for me. The bat is a perfect the fit. The injuries and the defense definitely is not.

Payroll room isn’t really an issue for tbt Twins. They have like a $90M payroll rn.

Grosssss

Lol. What an earth shattering rumor.

I got a son (my first kid) on the way. He's going to be a lefty whether he likes it or not.

Oh, yah? So how did the Sox afford their $195M payroll last year? I also literally said in this very thread that adding those players could result in a) the need to trade someone like Hendriks to clear salary; or b) acquire the LH OF via trade rather than signing. So I am well aware that the Sox may not get up to $195M. But its definitely possible and doable. But I glad to hear you're completely plugged into the Sox financial situation. I cannot wait to wave this in your face when the Sox both a) add more than $5M to their payroll rest of offseason; and 2) Colas isn't the opening day RF.

Yeah, I think the Sox are probably somewhere between a 84-88 win team as is. That will require some normalization on injuries and performance on key players, but yah. I certainly would like to see them make the team better, tho.

10%?!?! lol, oh my. Just stopped reading there.

Yawn. You take this stuff way too seriously. I have no "charge" against you. Your Outman bit just became a meme you wouldn't stop posting about 15x a day. Talk about being stuck on something. I've even outwardly stated that Outman would be a solid supplementary piece in a trade with LAD. Just move on from it dude.

So let's just say the Sox stand pat, because in your opinion, this team isn't good enough to compete for a playoff berth with Conforto + Frazier + Pillar. Which, by the way, pretty sure the Sox would be the favorites in the ALC by a good bit with that offseason. I will just remind you that the Conforto + Frazier + Pillar scenario still leaves a very large hole in RF for Colas to take once he earns it. The difference is that...if Colas doesn't earn it, or he gets hurt, or he comes up and hits .150 in his first month, the Sox still have 3 other major league quality players they can play in the OF that aren't currently on the roster. If you don't sign anyone, you don't have any of that. We're looking as Cespedes and Sheets as our starting corners. IF the Sox pencil Colas into a corner from day 1 and he flops, or gets hurt...they're fucked. We can all have our opinions on where this team currently shakes out in this division, but I can promise you that the organization thinks the team is good enough AS IS to win the division. So certainly supplementing the roster with major league caliber players won't make it worse.

Approximately $25M. Conforto $16-18M, Frazier $3-6M, Pillar $2-3M. As for your last sentence, what I am "stuck on" means absolutely nothing. Believe it or not, we're all die hard Sox fans talking a message board. What we are stuck on means absolutely nothing and has no bearing on what actually happens, you included.

It certainly doesn't if they don't do the right thing and keep him in AAA to start the year. Here's the thing. Colas is currently the 2nd best OF in the organization. There is little argument there. The problem is, we don't really know what we're going to get from him at the major league level as a rookie. Relying on him as Plan A in RF is well....a terrible plan. If he flops, Sox have absolutely nothing behind him. It is unlikely he is going to rake from the get go. Sign Conforto/Gallo for one corner or acquire an above average LH OF via trade. Sign Frazier/Profar/Drury to cover the other corner for the first month. Then, once Colas earns his everyday spot in Chicago, Frazier/Profar/Drury become super utility players - a guy like Frazier could factor into 2B everyday - Profar and Drury occasionally. All three can cover the OF and play IF, some more than others (which is why I actually like the Frazier fit). Then sign a RH 4th OF like Pillar and go to battle. Does Conforto + Frazier + Pillar require Sox to dump some money? It shouldn't - it would put the Sox almost exactly where they were in 2022 payroll wise. Its unlikely the Sox don't make any trades. Perhaps the LH OF comes via trade as the means of saving the ~$18M you'd have to pay Conforto.

This is neat. Twins gonna have to spend some money on something….

One corner will be the primary LH OF addition, whether that is via FA or trade. Conforto still feels possible, but sadly perhaps out of the Sox price range. The other corner will likely be scrap heap signing like Adam Frazier with some Sheets/Leury sprinkled in. Once Colas arrives a few weeks into the season, he takes over a corner (might be left depending on who is acquired for the other corner) and Frazier/scrapheap signing shifts to 2B rotation and OF reserve.

That’s possible too.

Yes they do. But that’ll be the scrappiest of scrap heaps in March. Probably 50/50 it’s Engel.

Huh? The position they have to fill voa trade or FA is an OF. They can go internal at 2B. Nothing you’re saying is making any sense. Everyone was penciling Colas into their 2023 OFs, what people were likely telling you is that he’s unlikely to break camp with the Sox. He still shouldn’t, but feels more likely now than ever. Sox should really sign someone like Conforto + someone like Frazier who can play OF for a few weeks until Colas arrives.

The Sox need 2 OFs. I doubt anyone argued that Colas would be 1 of them coming June 2023.

He's especially awful.

Merkin is so bad at his job.

I’d love getting Lamahieu. Last year or two of that deal might suck a bit but he’s a great fit. Doubt NYY would hand him over tho.

Yeah I mean I was mostly just kidding but if you’re gonna trade TA + Hendriks, I want an elite near MLB ready prospect back.

How about this video game trade, just for shits and giggles: TA + Hendriks + Grandal for Volpe + Wells + Dievi Garcia + Donaldson + $15M (covers difference in Grandal/Donaldson pay + $8M buyout + a bit) LOLZ. f*** Donaldson.

4/$60-70M.

Same. Dude was really good until September. He's a fantastic 4/5 starter to pair with the rest of this group.