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Yes the BA or publication awards do not matter, but the farm system still needs some improving. The farm system is on the way up for sure, the Sox have been drafting pretty well since 2012 (When the CBA came into affect) and they have been consistently bringing in solid players from LA since they hired Marco Paddy. They may be ranked in the lower third of the ranking still, but they have made major strides but you have to remember that its going to take a few years for these guys to rise through the system. So in a year or two they might be ranked in the top ten or fifteen. The Sox could flip some of their major league assets for prospects during the offseason and that could potentially bring in some major prospects into the fold.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 11, 2014 -> 05:46 AM) He was also the guy that was adamant on Mitchell and Alex Jackson over Rodon (although to be fair, time will tell on that one). Like any scout, he ain't perfect. I think Alex Jackson could be better than Rodon, he's gonna be a fast rise through the farm.

BR is good at reporting, analyzing and covering every sport but baseball. I do like their prospect section however.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) Like I said in the post you quoted, I'm not even sure I would support it, I'm just saying we DO have the ammo, and there's an argument to be made that the combination of our financial flexibility and his backloaded contract will lower the size of his market and thus his ultimate price. He's gonna make: 2015: $16 million 2016: $17 million 2017: $20 million That's a bad contract and he's gonna be 29 when the season starts.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 03:09 PM) The Rockies aren't going to give him away. That is pretty apparent. So it will take something more than halfway decent to get him. Exactly my point. Not only is he often injured, a terrible contract and what not. If you want the Sox to get him, they would have to trade away a package of some of their best prospects, which makes sense considering that they have been trying to rebuild the farm system up for the past few years. And the Rox would probably want Adams and Montas, and another prospect. That's a horrible deal for the Sox.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 12:33 PM) RE: CarGo -- because without those warts, he wouldn't be available at all. The high money is what limits his market, and our low payroll gives us a chance to play there -- to overpay on a contract like that using the equity that Sale/Quintana/Abreu's contracts have bought us and still end up breaking even from a team salary/production standpoint. His relatively young age and the nature of his injury history alos means he comes with considerable upside, if you assume a fully healthy year is a possibility. Given the Rockies change in leadership, a change in "direction" for them is more likely than ever, making it more likley that CarGo is on the block. I'm not sure I'm ready to jump on the CarGo train necessarily, but there's a logical argument to be made, certainly. How do you get CarGo?

QUOTE (BaconOnAStick @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) Eaton is the only one I could see as likely. Yeah Eaton is the only guy that I would consider for an extension, I would say Garcia but he needs to stay healthy.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 12:34 PM) It'll be interesting to see where he goes. That same guy that tweeted about the Sox and Tomas said that Abreu is pushing the front office to sign him. The tweet is in his replies to another person. Of course he does, they're countrymen. No don't know much about him and I am pretty invested in the INTL side of things, but I don't want him because the contract is going to be pretty big I imagine.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 12:26 PM) If Sox do manage to get Tomas and stick him in LF, I think adding Cargo would be even more beneficial because it gives you another OF that could spell Garcia or Tomas to fill in at DH, and the lefty bat we are looking for. CF Eaton SS Ramirez 1B Abreu DH Gonzalez LF Tomas RF Garcia 3B Gillaspie 2B Semien C Flowers That's a pretty damn good line up. I think Tomas is going to San Diego

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 12:15 PM) I must give you credit Joshua. I actually liked the idea of CarGo until you brought up his splits, then I went to look them up and noticed his salary for the next three years, I actually said out loud "f*** THAT!". Bad contract, bad knees, and bad hitter away from Coors

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 9, 2014 -> 11:28 AM) After taking into account CarGo's splits, injuries, and the fact he's owed 53M over the next three years, I don't get why people continue to bring up his name. Can someone offer a rational explanation please. Shields is another name that gets brought up and yet makes no sense given his age and length of contract he will get. Maeda is another guy I wouldn't get my hopes up for. I'm really hoping the Sox don't waste their time on him. PREACH

Micker Adolfo DOB: 9/11/1996 Height: 6'3 Weight: 200lbs Postion: OF Bats: Rights Throws: Right Signed: July 2nd, 2013 Scouting Report: When he signed for $1.6 million, Adolfo generated a lot of buzz. First because he was one of the top international prospects and any team would be happy to have him. Second, but maybe more importantly, it signaled that the White Sox were not going to be afraid to sign young international players to big money bonuses. He was ranked as the No. 2 prospect during the July 2 opening of the international signing period for players at least 16 years old by MLB.com. Baseball America ranked him No. 9. Adolfo was born in the U.S. Virgin Islands and, as a result, speaks fluent English so his transition to playing ball and living in the U.S. shouldn't be as steep as it is with most foreign players. He moved to the Dominican Republic at age 14, making him eligible for the international signing period. He is a good athlete with the ability to play a solid right field with a good arm, but his best tool is his power. He has big time power potential, but the question is whether he can make enough contact to make it matter. Adolfo made his professional debut with the new Arizona White Sox in 2014. - Future Sox

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 8, 2014 -> 08:27 PM) The Cardinals would argue those homegrown players all come into the system knowing if they perform well, they'll be promoted (and promoted together, usually)...that the Cardinals Way is inculcated from the very beginning...that all the prospects buy into the system, and the expectations of joining a "winning" organization where nothing short of the World Series is now the expectation, etc. They can watch examples like Wacha and Marco Gonzalez quickly progress through the system and know they can follow a similar path...or even examples where they're trading older veterans like Freese/Craig to create additional playing time for Wong, Grichuk, Adams, Tavares, etc. This cohesiveness is something (besides the lack of offensive players) the White Sox have never developed, and I think a lot of it's simply due to the KW "riverboat gambling" style of throwing a lot of talented acquisitions together and HOPING that everything clicks on a yearly basis. Then you look at almost every single player from our system having issues with strikeouts, execution offensively and defensively, baserunning...sloppy fielding mistakes, etc. That doesn't happen as often with the Cardinals (Top 3 with defensive runs saved as a team) or Giants, when you compare them defensively to the White Sox, it's a futile exercise to find any players other than Eaton/Ramirez that could hold their own on those two teams as a defender. Couldn't agree more. But I think that we're starting to see a philosophy that is being enforced in the lower levels of the farm when it comes from a offensive standpoint and approach, and in my opinion I think that started when Todd Severson was hired as the hitting coach. I remember reading that one of the first things he did after he was hired was that he held a week long hitting camp for the younger prospects like Hawkins, Trey M., Micker, Anderson, etc. and together they established an approach and worked on their swings. You can really see what a difference his teachings made with Courtney Hawkins ( ), the difference in his swing is undeniable. And we have a well established pitching philosophy that comes from Dom Cooper. The Sox have their offensive approach and pitching philosophy and over the years you're going to see those ideas trickled through the system and reach their way back to the majors.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 8, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) another name to think about is, and I know it is crazy, is Adams last yr 2 rounder. he just might ' fly thru the system. I think that if I had to bet on one prospect quickly rising through the system I would pick Adams and I would not surprised at all if that actually was the case.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 8, 2014 -> 05:40 PM) So 2 top prospects and the guy who was drafted before Rodon? I just wanted to point that out. / was meant to represent 'or' in that case.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 08:26 AM) If Q is going to the Marlins, I'm getting one of Stanton, Yelich, or Ozuna in return. And, if it's Yelich or Ozuna, I'm getting another pitcher or two in that trade too. At this point, the Sox need to be done trading young, quality players for packages of prospects. If I can't get Stanton back in a straight up trade for Quintana and cash, I would want back Andrew Heaney and Chrisitan Yelich or Tyler Kolek (Who you would have to get back as a PTBNL) and another low level prospect. But I would only trade Quintana for multiple prospects that are ML ready and one or two low level ones. If I had to trade him, I would try to trade him to either the Pirates for Glasnow/Meadows/Tucker and the Dodgers for Seager/Urias/$. If I had to trade him.

I think Robin is doing a good job, and is the right manager for the Sox. He's been doing the best with what he has to work with, and he's been doing great when it comes to developing some of the young players on the roster. You can not blame him (Or Hahn) for what happened with the bullpen and now that all the dead weight is off the team he can really establish a winning culture and attitude in the clubhouse.

If I am the Sox and I had to pick between a FA with a CO attached to him or keeping a second round pick, I am keeping the draft pick.

I would have been tempted to send Courtney Hawkins there. Just to give a taste of higher competition so both him and the club will have a better idea of what he needs to work on. I really want to like Olacio, the potential is there but he drastically needs to improve his command. I like Bassit and that he should be given a chance to start the year in the rotation. Where does Tim Anderson okay in the major? Is he really that bad defensively as his high total of errors indicates him being? Can Montas join the rotation at some point next year, joining Rodon?

The Rockies are working out Justin Hooper

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) i know its early but i can't believe how much info are out there this early on next yr draft. can't wait until the playoff is over. Thank the internet. I was watching videos of 2018 guys too today.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 09:25 AM) At the very least, he sounds like Baez to me. Not at all. Micker is not going to strike out at the same clip Baez will. Micker's strikeout total can be attributed to things like his age in regard to his level, inexperience and fatigue. I will admit, I would live to see him run more.

I think Adolfo can be the next Soler, I am really high on him.

The boston herald is reporting the same. They say Boston is going after Sale and Stanton this offseason.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 06:09 AM) when I read that, I was thinking if the journalist was wishful thinking or trying to relay info from Masterson camp. me. I agree, he is not worth 12 mil then again I am a fan and thinking as a fan. it is the baseball people who will determine what he is worth. however, I think something like 8-10 mil. I would give him $8M guaranteed for one year and the rest would be incentives. I don't imagine him getting a QO either, which is good for the Sox.