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QUOTE (scs787 @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 05:03 PM) Where is Micker playing?? Sounds like he's doin some work today. Double, HR, and a walk. Instructs, where'd you get this from?

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 1, 2014 -> 06:38 PM) I think he's saying that signing two free agents with gualifying offers is worth the Sox losing their 2nd and 3rd round picks. The Sox need their draft picks. We don't want to go through another stretch like 2007 - 2011 from a draft standpoint.

I have been giving this some thought, but if Robin Ventura were no longer the manager of the team, I would want the Sox to hire Bo Porter. I really liked what he did with the Astros and he should still be managing the team.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 30, 2014 -> 10:57 PM) Ohtani isn't eligible to post! I've read in Baseball America that he wants to come stateside

EVERY ONE GO ON THEIR COMPUTER & LOOK UP SHOHEI OHTANI http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shohei_Ohtani http://youtu.be/9utx2BPIYlU He wants to come over to the states soon and the Sox need to jump all over him.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 30, 2014 -> 12:55 AM) I went over that in my post. To add to that post let's keep in mind the Yanks just might be reluctant to give up their 2nd best prospect considering their system is so weak, outside of a few guys of course. Another thing is if you don't think those two low level prospects will sniff the majors, what's the point? The Yankees are deep at Catcher, they can survive trading Sanchez. In regards to the two international signings, there is a chance that most prospects will not make it to the bigs. INTL kids are lottery tickets and those are two kids that I would glady bet on.

I'm not over valuing him, I'm sending you a proven, all star shortstop in return for one of the better prospects in their system and two kids who statisitics say that there is a good chance they'll not even sniff the majors and won't get past the DSL. I'm overvaluing how?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) The Sox and Yankees are actually great matches if they wanted to pursue a deal. If I'm Rick Hahn and dealing with the Yankees, I would want back Gary Sanchez and two of the international prospects that they just signed, preferably Juan de Leon and Antiono Arias.

Ideally, Rodon starts the season in the bullpen and becomes a starter in either June or July to save his arm.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 05:45 PM) If we could pick up all those players, I'd give Hahn a B+ for the offseason. He'd still have to fire Ventura to give us a shot to win and earn an A. I think Ventura is a rather good manager and someone that has what it takes to bring the Sox to contention and I think that he is a good manager to have around for the rebuild, I also think that he is pretty good as well when it comes to developing young talent. Everyone here couldn't stop drinking his koolaid back in 2012 when they were contending for the division. People have to remember that the team is rebuilding, so all of your expectations need to be tempered down. It is ridiculous to think that the team should 90 games while they're rebuilding and the FO has come out and said such, it doesn't work like that. Ventura is not going anywhere and he shouldn't be.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) Sign all of the Guerrero children. Watch their training videos, insane for 15 yr olds

I'll give the coaching staff and the front office a collective B+ on the year.

What time does the ceremony start?

Is anyone going to the Saturday game and would want to meet up to watch the Ceremony.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 07:10 PM) Do Dustin Ackley's beckham-like numbers or Rasmus' viciedo-like numbers really appeal to so many ? Have we gotten rid of the dead weight only to acquire more of the same ? Bartender, give this man a drink on my tab. This is the smartest thing that I have heard on this thread.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Vlad Jr has some serious power: Actually, I have been doing research on next year's international crop and the Guerrero Family is reponsible for three of the best propects in the class apparently. There is Vlad Jr who is being pegged as the best overall prospect for next year. There is Gregory who is the best over shortstop and has the best hit tool according to some scouts. And then there is Josue.

Vlad Jr has some serious power:

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) Also worth throwing out there, if it hasn't been already, Q ranks 9th among pitchers in the whole league in WAR. That almost feels a little silly to me, but it's true. He's nearly 2 whole points ahead of Shields who is probably about to get paid 3x as much as Q is being paid. Where did you get that from?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 04:29 AM) 1) The Dodgers are more than likely not offering Urias and Seager. 2) The Cubs rebuild has taught us...Soler is good and Baez sucks and that they still have no pitching outside of Arrieta. They don't have Sale, Abreu, Q, Eaton or Garcia. 2 franchise cornerstones and three all-star level talents already at the MLB level. I just used that trade as an example, since someone brought it up. The Cubs do have two franchise cornerstones in Rizzo and Castro, oh and they have another coming up in Kris Bryant. And Baez dose not suck, it's too premature to say that, you should judge after he plays a full season in the bigs first.

I think this will look better next year with a year under everyone's belt in the Todd Severson school of hitting.

QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 12:35 AM) And you have to understand that whomever they get in return for Q, would probably not yield that same value, in regards to value on the field, and monetary value. You don't trade Q unless you get a Q back, and if you're going to do that, why trade him in the first place? I hear you loud and clear, I just disagree with you. I am not demanding that the Sox trade Q, I'm stating that it's a notion that they should explore. With that particular trade, Urias and Seager for Quintana. I would argue that Urias has a higher ceiling and better stuff than Quintana. And Seager is the best all around third base prospect in the game in my opinion. He can flat out hit and projects to be a 300 hitter while he hits 25 homers and drives in a 100 RBI a season in the bigs. These just aren't any prospects, these are elite prospects that have performed at every level. Seager would be that left handed, run producer that the team is going to need in the line up going forward. And Urias would be another solid arm to put alongside Sale and Rodon, he's left handed too if that helps you. Hasn't the Cubs' rebuild taught us anything, that pitching is an overrated commodity and when someone offers you that package of prospects, you should strike. (Samardzija and Hammel for Russell, McKinney and Strailey. I think most would agree to say that the Cubs won that deal.) Trading Q would bring the Sox a lot of value back.

QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 12:12 AM) You know Q is a top 10 starter in the AL at a super bargain of a price, right? Yes, I am aware.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 11:33 PM) And the Sox are going to need multiple starters that can do what Q is capable of. I don't know about you but Sale, Q and Rodon in the same rotation for the next 4-6 years sounds pretty solid. Hopefully two of Bassitt, Noesi, Montas or Danish will be able to solidify the other two spots in the next 1-2 years and the rotation is set and a rather cheap one at that. Filling one hole and creating another doesn't make any sense to be honest. I'm really not against the idea of trading any player but guys like Q are valuable like you said, will be needed on a contending team and the haul would have to be overwhelming. For example, negotiations with a team like the Dodgers would start with Julio Urias and one of Joc Pederson or Corey Seager or else forget it. Never over value your own talent, if the Dodgers called and offered Urias and Seager for Quintana, the Sox would be stupid to say no

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 10:53 PM) Do think Rodon can match Q's 200IP and 3.32 ERA? That setting the expectations just a bit high for Rodon. Plus more taxing on the pen. In 2015, not a chance, (Mind you that I have Rodon being anointed a starter after the break.) but going forward yes. 2015 is going to be another and hopefully the last rebuilding year for the Sox. There are still a lot of holes and question marks going forward and the team needs to acquire assets if they hope to be a serious contender going forward. Quintana is a highly valuable commodity and he would bet the Sox a serious return of prospects as teams are going to overpay for a LHP, who is under 30, a quality start machine and is signed to a very team friendly contract. Having Quintana on the team is good for 2015, but what about the future going forward?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 10:30 PM) Do you know what would retard the process of making the White Sox a playoff team? This thread is saying that the team needs bats, trading Q would slove that problem. Trading Q would give the team high quality, ML ready and cost controlled prospects. Rodin could replace him in the rotation and the Sox can sign some mid level starting pitchers to hold down the fort till their pitching prospects are ready.