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QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jul 15, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) Its been reported that 10M won't be enough. How true that is, I do not know. I just can't see him hitting the free agent market. It might be enough if you have Sale and Coop talk to him about the team's pitching program and how they manage their pitchers. I imagine that MLB dosent want this to happen, and Scott Boaras is going to go off if it does. Remember he said that he believes that Kris Bryant should be making more money than Abreu is now.

If I'm Rick Hahn, I'm getting an offer ready for Aiken if he reaches FA. I might go $10 million for Aiken, I think he's that good.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 13, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) Just curious, Josh, but why are you comparing Trey to Corey Seager? I think he's the games elite 3rd base prospect not name Kria Bryant and Trey and Corey Seager have similar profiles.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jul 12, 2014 -> 10:41 PM) At the same age/level (19, single-A): Seager- .309/.389/.529, 10.9 BB%/18.6 K%, .220 ISO, .353 BABIP Trey- .297/.379/.477, 10.2 BB%/27.9 K%, .180 ISO, .407 BABIP It's not close between the two. Trey's numbers are nice, Seager's are elite. Trey may be hitting near .300 but he's not making good contact. I really have no idea how you could consider him to have the best contact skills in the system. I was talking about the lower level guys, but I think that Trey has the best combination of contact and power skills in the system, who's better? And there was a good period where Seager struggled in his first full season., I still think that the two are comparable.

If I already had Tommy John at a young age, I would sign with the Sox and not take the risk of injuring myself again in college.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 12, 2014 -> 08:43 PM) Trey is striking out at an Hawkins-esque rate. Still young, but definitely some serious flaws he needs to fix. I notice that too, but he's a guy who can hit at a high average and has might have the best contact skills in the farm but that should be something that comes down with experience. I like comparing his stats to Corey Seager of the Dodgers at this time last year and I think that he is doing better.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 12, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) Please go right ahead, probably know more than me, sorry for doing so, just post your stuff right in here Do we have similar tastes just for the hell of it? Like any of these prospects for us or just in general? I was going to do more HS guys than college players

Luis Martinez is looking pretty good in AZL ball, strikeout machine and the first signing by Marco Paddy

I was going to make this thread, but I guess I can combine my info with yours.

The Sox aren't in a position to trade away prospects in my opinion.

You guys can be angry that the Sox are losing, that's completely understandable. And you can not like the outcomes of the decisions that management and Robin have made so far in the front office and in the field. What me angry with White Sox fans who desperately want Robin to be fired, is that they fail to see that he is doing the best with his current situation, I don't disagree with his decision to take Sale out of the game and bring in a reliever. Chris Sale already that point already threw 107 pitches in the game with Pedroria up to bat, Pedoria sees a average of 4.4 pitches per at bat, which based on his average would've brought Sale's pitch count to 111 in a game where the team is up 4 runs to zero, these are the same fans who criticized Robin when he let's Sale pitch 120 pitches in a game. What did Robin did today was conventional baseball wisdom in my opinion, he saw that his ace was starting to tire and he moved to the bullpen and put in a guy in Petrika who has been doing well as of fairly recently. If this move works out then Robin is a hero, if it doesn't then.. well we have a topic like this in the forum. It's okay not to like the outcome of Robin's moves, I have a problem with people who fail to see the reasoning in his decision making. And for those of you who still yearn for Addison Reed to be on the team, but let ask you this how many easy, 1-2-3 inning saves did he have while he was the closer? People always said that he makes thing too interesting to be comfortable while he was the closer and people even wanted him to lose his job to Nate Jones. If I were Rick Hahn and a team offered me a young, potential cornerstone third baseman for my closer, I would take that deal in a second. Rant over

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 08:25 PM) 1) This is stupid. He has athleticism, it's just he got bad reads. You have no idea how his body will hold up. Manny didn't fit the body type, you can argue Andruw Jones didn't later in his career. 2) Why? What reasoning? And stop trying to put Abreu at DH unless his glove is actually hurting the team, which it isn't. 3) ...ok, this just is griping just to gripe. The guy is 6'4 and 240 pounds as a 23 year old, it's not unreasonable to assume that his body will continue to get 'bigger' or that he will loose some of his athleticism and speed as he continues to get older. You can put him at first base where he instantly becomes one of the more athletic first basemen in the game and he has the tools to be a plus defender at first long term, I can't say the same with confidence if he stays in the OF, and maybe if he is still getting bad reads on the ball at this level maybe the OF isn't the place for him long term. I have no problems with Abreu playing 1B, I think he is an underrated defensive player and because his bat is so good that his skills on the field go unnoticed. I am not advocating that the Sox move Abreu to DH so he can focus on his bat full time, I'm saying that the Sox should consider moving Garcia out of the OF because that allow them more flexibility when they build the lineup and the roster. Hell, Garcia could DH full time and I would support that decision.

I would love to see the Sox be sellers at the deadline, I don't think that their window is open yet and maybe two or three years away from being legit AL contenders, remember that they lost 99 games last year. The only guys who I consider to be untouchable are Sale, Quintana (Although if the 'right' deal came along I would move him.), Abreu, Eaton and Garcia. If I am Rick Hahn, I am putting Danks, Ramirez, Dunn and Beckham all on the block and see what offers come my way, I would put an emphasis on taking back position players to add to the system.

Garcia is not the prototypical outfielder in terms of body type, and his speed will leave him as his body continues to grow and you'll find guy with bodies like his either playing first or DHing. I think that Garcia could be a plus defender at first and maybe even an upgrade at first over Abreu, who's glove hasn't been that bad in his defense. Plus if you have Abreu and Garcia as your 1B/DH it allows to put another athlete in the outfield, which could help out the teams defense. And can he please switch out of #26, it looks horrible on him.

Another hit for Micker is very good to see. I know that he dosent have the greatest batting average but keep in mind that gets a 17 year old playing with guys 2 to 4 years older than him. When judging and evaluating him as a prospect don't put too much on his numbers at the plate. I think that he ends the year as a top 10 prospect for the Sox.

If I were Robin, I would move Garcia to 1B full time and move Abreu to DH, that would allow me to get more athletic in the field and could fill some holes for the team going forward. (And if anyone thinks that the Sox are going to contend for a playoff spot/make the playoffs this year is insane, and I think Rick Hahn knows that. The 'rebuilding' effort wasn't to going to be a one year thing. It is more beneficial to the Sox if they deal guys like Dunn, Danks, Ramirez and Viciedo so that they can bring up and see what they have in guys like Matt Davidson and Micah Johnson, etc. And most importantly they get a higher draft and more money to spend on the intl markett, which is more beneficial to the long term health of the franchise than making the playoffs.)

When they trade John Danks to the Yankees for Gary Sanchez and other prospects.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jul 5, 2014 -> 12:55 PM) That would be a gigantic haul. No way that happens. If Danks gets moved, it may be similar to what we got back for Javy Vasquez I don't think is that gigantic, you're giving me 16 year olds who may never reach the major leagues for a proven major leauge pitcher plus you're too prospect. How bout the Sox send the Yankees Danks and the Sox get back Sanchez and two of those intl prospects.

For Danka, I would want back Gary Sanchez and maybe three of the INTL guys that they just signed, specifically Juan De Leon, Jonathan Amundary and Dermis Garcia and cash considerations.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 09:38 PM) Indifferent because I think Coop controls the pitching staff. I just can't imagine Coop not speaking up if he thinks Robin is handling the staff wrong. Robin is an ex hitter, Coop is one of the most respected pitching coaches in the league, really think it's his call out there. Danks has always been a workhorse and he just had one of his best games ever against a damn good Angels team. QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 09:20 PM) Robin is just a disgrace.. It is not Robin's fault that the team can not score more than 2 runs in a game. And if Robin is the manager of the ball club than he has final say over everything, Cooper's job is to coach the pitching staff under Robin's supervision, not to make decisions. John Danks should have gotten the win tonight, and Robin didnt make a mistake by keeping him out there. If you want to blame anyone for giving away that lead, you should blame the team's offense. However the Sox win and you're point is invalid.

I called that HR by the way. That was a solid effort by Danks who has been pitching really well as of late, if I were Rick Hahn would put him on the trading block and try to move him at the deadline. There will be a team that will miss out on both Price and Samardzija at the deadline and they'll get desperate for pitching and will be willing to offer a lot for Danks.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 09:14 PM) Depends on if they can somehow trade Dunn. If he goes, they can DH Gillaspie and probably put him at 1B too. For now, I'm glad Davidson is hitting some in AAA. Maybe in 4 weeks, he'll be ready. Its the Jim Thome effect. I would promote Davidson in a month's time assuming he is still putting up solid numbers and I would move Gillapse to LF.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) BACK OFF, BRO. Calm down, calm down. However, he might be the smartest draft pick the Sox have made in a while.

I want to ask this to you guys as Connor is at the plate. If Davidson continues on the tear he is on at Charlotte, do you call him up to be the guy at third. What do you do with Connor?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 06:58 PM) Trey is 1-2 with a 2B so far. Since June 1st, he has 7 HR and is hitting .340. He has gotten better every single month this season. If he can cut down on those K's significantly in July, I'd be for a promotion to W-S. Without a doubt, my favorite prospect in the system.