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Sox have got to roll over and die to the Diamondbacks who only have a slight lead over the Cubs in the wild card race. Cubs can't get any home games. Sox getting swept while Cubs are at Atlanta/Milwaukee would help that situation. Cubs will make the playoff with 85 wins but with no home games they should be a quick out.
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I think the decision of a possible new stadium will be made by new ownership because the odds are overwhelming JR will not be around in six years.
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Luis Robert Jr. will be evaluated Monday in Chicago
Lip Man 1 replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Only the White Sox can see a disaster take place on a supposedly positive individual performance. The baseball gods continue, time after time after time to say, "Until JR is gone we're going to keep shitting all over you..." -
September 24, 1919 - A 6-5 win over the St. Louis Browns clinched the pennant for the White Sox. Eddie Cicotte got the win. “Shoeless” Joe Jackson’s double in the ninth drove in the game and pennant clinching run. The Sox would beat out the Indians by three and a half games for the title and finish with a record of 88-52. The key to the season came in mid-August when the Sox reeled off a 10-game win streak. September 24, 1961 - Sox star pitcher Billy Pierce won his 186th and final game with the team as he threw almost seven innings in relief in an 8-7 win over Baltimore. Pierce would be traded to the Giants the following off season after 13 years on the South Side. He represented the Sox in seven All-Star games and started three of them for the American League, a White Sox record for pitchers. September 24, 1969 - Sox owner Art Allyn sold the club to his brother John Allyn thwarting moves made by Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt and Milwaukee’s Allan "Bud" Selig to buy the team. Hunt wanted to move it to Dallas, Selig to Milwaukee. After Art had a handshake agreement with Selig to move the team to Milwaukee, John stepped in and issued an ultimatum that if he wanted to move the club he would have to get approval from the Artnell Company Board of Directors. Art declined to do that and sold to John. September 24, 1977 - Sox infielder Jack Brohamer had the game of his life as he became the second player in franchise history to hit for the cycle in a game at Seattle. Brohamer went 5 for 5 with two runs scored and four RBI’s in the 8-3 win. He homered in the first, doubled in the third, doubled in the fifth, singled in the sixth and tripled in the ninth inning collected 12 total bases. September 24, 2000 - Despite losing to the Twins at the Metrodome, the Sox clinched the Central Division championship beating out Cleveland by five games with a record of 95-67. Owner Jerry Reinsdorf showed up in the locker room and said that “I’m sure all Sox fans are now happy the team made the White Flag deal.” Because of injuries to the pitching staff, primarily the starters, the Sox were not in good shape heading into the playoffs and were swept out in three by the Mariners. Offense was the key to the season as the Sox had the most prolific one in the American League led by the devastating one-two punch of Frank Thomas (143 RBI’s) and Magglio Ordonez (126 RBI’s). September 24, 2023 – In a disaster of a season for the White Sox one person at least had a memorable year for all the right reasons. When Luis Robert stole his 20th base of the year in the first inning of a rain-shortened 3-2 win in Boston he joined Magglio Ordonez as the only players in team history with at least 35 doubles, 30 home runs and 20 stolen bases in a season. He also is the only Sox player in team history with 35 or more doubles, 35 or more home runs, 75 or more RBI’s, 85 or more runs scored and 15 or more stolen bases in a single year..
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They should. Hope they roll over and die to Arizona, Need to keep the Cubs from getting any possibility of home field.
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September 23, 1995 - Lance Johnson got six hits in six at bats in a game at Minnesota. Three of the hits were triples and he drove in four runs in the 14-4 win. He was the fourth player in team history to do this and first to ever get three triples in a game. He had 12 total bases for the night. September 23, 2017 – White Sox slugger Jose Abreu became the third player in Major League history to start his career with four straight seasons of at least 25 home runs and at least 100 RBI’s by virtue of his run-scoring groundout off the Royals Scott Alexander at Guaranteed Rate Field. Jose joined Albert Pujois and Joe DiMaggio in accomplishing this rare feat. Pujols, DiMaggio, Abreu, former Sox outfielder Al Simmons and Ted Williams are the only players to start their careers with four straight seasons of 100 RBI’s. September 23, 2021 – The White Sox beat the Indians 7-2 in the first game of a double header to clinch the Central Division title, their first since the 2008 season. The title locked up consecutive playoff berths for the first time in franchise history as they made the post season in 2020 as a Wild Card. The Sox were the last of the original 16 Major League teams to accomplish that feat. The Sox got after things early with Tim Anderson leading off the game with a home run, then broke it open with a six run, second inning. In that frame Luis Robert, Eloy Jimenez and Anderson again all hit home runs. They’d end the year with 93 wins and a playoff loss to Houston in four games.
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19th time this season the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later AND lost the game. 19 times. Incredible. Will be interesting to see if Getz feels the bullpen needs fixing before the rotation or the other way around (since we know JR won't give him enough money to do both...)
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Didn't he have a cyst removed last year? What is going on?
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I have that along with some other games from 1959.
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September 22, 1959 - The White Sox clinched the American League pennant beating the Indians 4-2 in Cleveland. Al Smith and “Jungle” Jim Rivera hit back-to-back home runs in the game. Smith also threw out former Sox star “Minnie” Minoso trying to score a run. A crowd estimated by the Chicago Sun-Times at 125,000 was at Midway Airport to greet the Sox when they returned home. All this on a night when Chicago fire commissioner Robert Quinn ordered the air raid sirens turned on to celebrate the title, causing fear and panic in a number of non-baseball fans who thought the Russians were attacking. The Sox would wind up winning the 1959 pennant by five games over the Tribe with a mark of 94-60. While they were near the bottom in most offensive categories the pitching was stellar and the defense had three Gold Glove winners in Nellie Fox, Luis Aparicio and Sherm Lollar. The Sox also won 35 games that season by one run with 15 losses. September 22, 1966 - In a game at Yankee Stadium, pitcher Joe Horlen and his teammates stopped New York to the tune of 4-1. Only 413 fans were in attendance at the gigantic stadium. It’s believed to be the smallest home crowd ever at a Yankee game. Yankee broadcaster "Red" Barber told the camera crew to pan the empty stands and was eventually fired over that decision.
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Jim Spencer of the Sox used to choke up all the time with two strikes. Regarding Burger, this is small consolation but he may help get the Marlins into the playoffs at the expense of the Cubs. That's not all bad.
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That wasn't my point. You have misinterpreted things. I know he was acquired the previous off season. The date September 21 is specifically because that was the day he threw the one-hitter. The Sox justified the deal because they wanted him to help get them to the post season.
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September 21, 1901 - The Sox won the first ‘official’ American League pennant despite losing to the Philadelphia A’s 10-4. The Sox would win the pennant by four games over the Boston Americans with a record of 83-53. Unfortunately, the World Series didn’t start until 1903, so this was the best that the Sox could do. The Sox had a very balanced lineup, which was led by outfielders William “Dummy" Hoy and Fielder Jones, and scored the most runs in the league. They relied primarily on speed, as Frank Isbell, Sam Mertes, and Jones finished 1–2–3 in stolen bases. The pitching staff was anchored by Clark Griffith, who went 24–7 with a 2.67 ERA. September 21, 1917 - The Sox clinched the pennant beating the Red Sox 2-1 behind Urban "Red" Faber. The final outs came when “Babe” Ruth rapped into a double play. The Sox would outdistance Boston by nine games in 1917 with a mark of 100-54, and then defeat the New York Giants four games to two, for the World Championship. The 100 wins in a season, have never been equaled in team history. The Sox offense led the league in runs scored that season while the pitching staff, led by Eddie Cicotte, had a season ERA of 2.16 September 21, 1955 - Frank “Trader” Lane, one of the finest G.M.’s in team history resigned. During his tenure, which spanned seven seasons, Lane made 241 trades involving 353 players. He was one of the architects of the club that would win the 1959 American League pennant. Among the players he acquired for the Sox were “Minnie” Minoso, Nellie Fox, Dick Donovan, “Jungle” Jim Rivera, Billy Pierce, “Chico” Carrasquel and Sherm Lollar. September 21, 1970 - For the first time in 69 seasons, the Sox finally had a 30-home run man. Bill Melton got an upper deck shot off the Royals Aurelio Monteagudo, who pitched for the Sox the year before, for the most Sox home runs in a season at that time. That same day Luis Aparicio got his final hit in a Sox uniform. He had 1,576 of them for the White Sox. Just 672 fans were on hand to see the double header at Comiskey Park as the Sox were closing out the worst season in franchise history. September 21, 2015 – Jeff Samardzija was acquired from the A’s with the hope that the Chicago native, who grew up a White Sox fan, could be the difference in getting the team to the postseason. His campaign though was something to forget as he struggled all year, particularly in the first inning and after the trade deadline. On this day however he pitched the finest game in his career, tossing a complete game one-hitter shutting out the Tigers 2-0 in the first game of a double header sweep. The only hit he allowed was a bloop single off the bat of Victor Martinez in the fifth inning. He struck out six and only faced one hitter over the minimum.
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9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to Eminor3rd's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Greenberg at The Athletic wrote the Bears are close to being "DEFCON White Sox". ? But when you have bad ownership that's what you get. -
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-chris-getz-kansas-city-royals-20230921-qr3lu5s5w5egni6qpijjzmlz3u-story.html
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9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to Eminor3rd's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Like the Eagles sang, "You can check out anytime you like but you may never leave..." -
9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to Eminor3rd's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Yep and Dane Dunning and Carlos Rodon to name a few. -
9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to Eminor3rd's topic in 2023 Season in Review
We'll see if he starts the season OK next year or if the Sox screw around like with so many other guys "hoping" the injury situation gets better. "With his season workload at 60 appearances and 661⁄3 innings pitched, in high leverage opportunities including closer role responsibilities for the first time in his career, White Sox right-hander Gregory Santos is calling it a season. The hard-throwing 24-year-old who was acquired in a minor trade last offseason after being designated for assignment by the Giants and ascended to ninth-inning duty with closer Liam Hendriks lost for most of the season, Santos was placed on the 15-day injured list with right elbow inflammation Wednesday. Left-hander Garrett Crochet was returned from his rehab assignment with shoulder inflammation, taking Santos’ roster spot. Santos’ previous high workload was 35 Triple-A innings in the Giants’ system. The Sox are not sure of the severity of the injury yet for a pitcher who figures prominently in the 2024 bullpen, if healthy." -
9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to Eminor3rd's topic in 2023 Season in Review
"A Bears spokesperson said there was no police activity at Halas Hall on Wednesday or any other day relating to Williams." - Sun Times story -
9/20 vs. WSH: “There’s No Gamethread” Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to Eminor3rd's topic in 2023 Season in Review
The Sox actually offered Harry more money than he signed on to the Cubs for the 1982 season but with "SportsVision" about to start and his dislike of the owners he left. -
September 20, 1902 - Jim “Nixey” Callahan threw the first no-hitter in franchise history as he beat the Tigers. The Sox gave him all the runs he needed by scoring three in the first inning. The Sox won it 3-0 in Chicago. The Tigers got one runner as far as third base but that was it for the afternoon. Callahan walked two batters on the day. Callahan was a two-way player for a good chunk of his career, from 1897 to 1903. So, at the time of this no-hitter in the 1902 season, he pitched in 35 games and played outfield in 23 others. By the 1903, he’d shift more or less full time to third base. September 20, 1908 - Sox pitcher Frank Smith tossed his second no-hitter beating the Philadelphia A’s 1-0 in Chicago. The Sox scored in the ninth inning to win the game. The run was driven in by shortstop Freddy Parent. Smith pitched that day with the little finger of his hand being stiff and sore from trying to stop a hot shot against the Indians in his previous start. This date, September 20, is also the only date in franchise history where multiple no-hitters have been thrown on over the years. September 20, 2005 - With the White Sox struggling through eight losses in 11 games — the worst slump of what would become a rare, wire-to-wire first-place season — Joe Crede slugged a leadoff homer in the bottom of the 10th for a sayonara shot that upended second-place Cleveland, 7-6. The White Sox had the game in hand, but rookie Bobby Jenks blew the second save of his career in the ninth, furthering the trend of the club over the past 13 days, as Cleveland shaved six games off of a once nine and a half game lead in the A.L. Central Division. Chicago wasn’t out of the woods yet, as over the next few days Cleveland would trim the division lead to a game and a half but a late kick saw the White Sox swell the lead back to its final six games, including an end-of-season sweep of the Tribe that knocked them out of the playoffs entirely. Combining the five-game winning streak to end the regular season with the 11-1 run in the playoffs, the White Sox ended 2005 winning 16 of 17 games. The homer was Crede’s second of the contest, capping a 3 for 5, three-RBI day.
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Sox @ Washington September 19 Early Gamethread
Lip Man 1 replied to wegner's topic in 2023 Season in Review
18th time the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later and wound up losing the game. 18. -
There were four extra inning games in Oakland that year. They went 10, 19,11 and 15 innings. Sox won two of them.
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September 19, 1925 - The White Sox set the franchise record (since tied) for the largest shutout margin in team history when they blanked the Senators 17-0 at Washington. The game was the back half of a twin bill. Ted Lyons would throw a one-hitter, losing his no-hitter with two outs in the ninth inning on a bloop single to right by Bobby Veach over the head of first baseman Earl Sheely. Sheely had the big offensive game for the Sox going 4 for 6 with four RBI’s and two runs scored. The Sox had a seven run, second inning and an eight run, fifth inning. September 19, 1972 – It was one of the wildest games the White Sox ever played. Facing the A’s in Oakland and fighting to stay alive in the pennant race, the Sox beat Oakland 8-7 in 15 innings in a game that took almost five hours to play. The Sox couldn’t hold leads of 5-3 in the ninth inning or 7-5 in the 13th but wound up winning on a George Orta home run. Rich “Goose” Gossage, the last of seven pitcher’s manager Chuck Tanner used on the night, got the win. A Major League record (for the time) 51 players were used in the game, 21 by the White Sox and 30 by the A’s. That record has since been broken. September 19, 1986 - Sox pitcher Joe Cowley made the record books by no-hitting the Angels in Anaheim 7-1. It was an unusual no-hitter. Cowley walked seven, including three straight in the sixth inning, when California got their run. He also struck out eight and threw a total of 138 pitches. It was only the 12th time in big league history a club got no-hit…but scored a run! Ironically it would be Cowley’s last win in the big leagues as he lost his final two starts that year, was traded to the Phillies where he went 0-4, was demoted to Triple-A Maine and retired.
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Hendriks to Garfien: "I’m hoping they pick it up. I mean, it’s a longshot, but look, it is what it is, and I hope to be here."