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I agree this is probably true but again remember who he works for. JR already made it clear at his presser that nothing will change regarding free agents. The Sox will pick up has been's, injury prone guys and retreads and "hope" they produce. Getz will do what he can for the time he is around but when JR leaves the scene, new ownership will flush out the baseball side of the operations.

Somehow, someway Moncada, Jimenez, Bummer and Anderson have got to go. Doesn't matter if they lose 120 games next year. It's called addition by subtraction for long term health.

From DVS story on this afternoon's carnage: "It was the latest remind of just how big a job new general manager Chris Getz is facing. Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, expressing belief in the Sox’ core just last week, is trying to convince fans another rebuild isn't necessary, not with the current core, a core that has the Sox holding a 53-85 record, reaching new depths below the .500 mark with each passing day." ?

Another embarrassing loss, Guys are just going through the motions. No guts, no brains, no pride.

Gang it's going to be an interesting off season isn't it?????????????????????????????????????

At this point does it even matter? Three quarters of this pitching staff is simply cannon fodder.

There's really nothing for an outsider to have to familiarize themselves with. If they are in baseball they already know basically everything has to be torn down and people on the baseball side of the operation fired. How hard is that to figure out?????

September 4, 1937 – Sox outfielder Mike Kreevich tied the Major League record by hitting four doubles in a 9-1 win over the Tigers at Tiger Stadium. He went 4 for 6, with three runs scored and an RBI. Three of his four doubles came off Detroit starting pitcher Tommy Bridges. September 4, 1960 - A viral infection knocked Nellie Fox out of the line-up for the first time since August of 1955 in the first game of a double header at home against Detroit. Fox was replaced by Billy Goodman. Nellie played in 798 consecutive games, still the White Sox record, and 1,072 out of 1,073. September 4, 1961 – It was a strange start to a good Sox career for pitcher Joe Horlen. Horlen entered the game in Minnesota wearing a blank jersey. That’s right…no name, no number, on the back! As Horlen was warming up, Twins manager and former Sox outfielder Sam Mele came out to talk to the umpire basically wondering who that kid was on the mound! Only one other time in Major League history has this ever happened as the Reds Eric Davis suffered the same fate on May 19, 1984. Joe allowed two hits in four innings of work and got the win in the 9-5 decision. An unusual Major League debut! September 4, 1970 – It was one of the key dates in franchise history as Roland Hemond was hired as player personnel director to rebuild the franchise. The club would lose a team record 106 games in 1970. The very next year they would improve by 23 games from 56 to 79 wins and by 1972 would be a legitimate title contender. Hemond would eventually become G.M. and stay with the team initially through 1985. Also coming along as new field manager was Chuck Tanner who’d be named Manager of the Year in 1972. Both men came to Chicago from the Angels organization where they had worked together for a number of years. September 4, 1995 - Robin Ventura hit a pair of grand slams in a 14-3 win over Texas. He was the eighth player in history at the time to hit a pair in one game. His eight RBI’s tied the franchise record. His home runs came in the fourth and fifth inning and he also had a double in the contest giving him 10 total bases for the night. September 4, 2016 – In a wild slugfest in Minnesota, won by the Sox 13-11, first baseman Jose Abreu drove in seven RBI’s. Jose had a pair of three run home runs in the game along with an RBI single. The home runs came in the first and seventh innings. The seven RBI’s are one off the franchise record for a single game.

Unless the Sox somehow acquire by whatever means four starting pitchers Kopech isn't going anywhere.

Paul Richards, Marty Marion, Al Lopez and Eddie Stanky probably were the best stretch of managers at least in my lifetime. That was part of the reason the Sox had 17 straight winning years.

If you think this year is bad just wait until you go through next season with the garbage they have on the field.

I was just doing some research on Roland Hemond trying to find some historical information and a number of the stories talked about his days with the Sox in the early 1970's and what he did in the early 1980's. The thought hit me and made me so wistful for those days when summers were fun, the Sox were worth supporting and the players they had seemed to give a damn. Not like the absolute s%*#, incompetence, dysfunction and ineptness that permeates all the way from top to bottom in this organization today. It just turns my stomach and makes me ill.

He has two more years to go on his contract, that matters a lot to JR.

Kopech needs to be shut down for the rest of the year to get his mental approach working again. He needs another break like he took in 2020 (of course that may be part of the problem, he costs himself valuable time pitching)

September 3, 1936 - Luke Appling’s then club record 27 game hitting streak ended in Boston courtesy of pitcher Wes Farrell. He’d go 0-2 with two walks in a 3-2 White Sox win. His record would stand until 2004 when Carlos Lee broke it by hitting in 28 straight games. September 3, 1990 - Sox relief pitcher Bobby Thigpen set the Major League mark when he got his 47th save of the season in a win over Kansas City. He’d finish the year with 57 saves which stood as the record until 2008. For the season, he’d also win four games and have an ERA of 1.83… naturally he was named the Fireman of the Year as well as an American League All-Star. September 3, 2022 – He had been one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball for the season and on this night, Dylan Cease turned it up a notch against the Twins. Cease had a no-hitter with two out in the ninth inning at Guaranteed Rate Field before a slider cut too much of the plate to Luis Arraez. Arraez didn’t miss it, driving a solid single into right center field ending the no-hit possibility. Cease would finish with a brilliant one-hitter in the Sox 13-0 win. Cease struck out seven in the game recording his 13th win of the year.

Good column providing new info on JR speaking to certain members of the media: https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-jerry-reinsdorf-20230903-7qftzmb7gbavzbilxd6jumti6i-story.html

With not one, but two years to go on his deal there was no way the Sox were firing him even if they lost 120 games.

JR stated the Sox are now going to monitor guys in the off season. Why they weren't doing this before is anybody's guess.

Like Garfien and McGuffey have been saying he needs to go if at all possible. He's another Avi Garcia who admitted to the media that he wasn't in shape when he played for the Sox. He got his money and he basically said "screw it..." There have been to many reports from different people saying this guy is a problem and not all of them could have had an ax to grind.

“With :30 seconds left in their selection time on draft day JR would say things like “You know this college right-handed pitcher has the lowest injury risk.”

September 2, 1918 - In a season ending double header at Detroit, George “Buck” Weaver rapped out eight hits in 10 at bats. The 1918 season ended early because of World War I. The Sox would lose the games, 11-5 and 7-3. He went 5 for 5 in the first game and 3 for 5 in the second. He had two doubles among the eight hits. September 2, 1937 - In a game at Comiskey Park, Sox third baseman Lou “Boze” Berger and outfielder Mike Kreevich led off the Sox half of the first with back-to-back home runs. It was the first time that ever happened in team history. The Sox beat Boston 4-2. September 2, 1995 - Tim Raines had his American League record of 40 consecutive steals snapped when he was thrown out in the third inning. Toronto’s Randy Knorr was the man who threw him out in the Sox 10-4 win.

I've been hearing the front office morale has been pretty bad.

Interesting comments regarding health issues with the Sox: https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-chris-getz-pedro-grifol-20230901-udo2va3eobb5xjwrjgysg2tg5u-story.html

This is a really interesting story: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/9/1/23856073/white-sox-shooting-stray-bullet-history-of-other-ballpark-shootings

Saw a video as well where the 15 thousand fans (on a holiday Friday night LOL) booed the team off the field at the end.