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August 21, 1926 - Ted Lyons fired a no-hitter in beating Boston 6-0 at Fenway Park. The Red Sox would only get two baserunners in the game, one came on a walk and the other on an error by shortstop Bill Hunnefield who fumbled a ground ball and then threw high to first base. Lyons, a future Hall of Famer, would win 260 games in a 21-year career, all with the Sox. His number #16 would be retired by the club in 1987. August 21, 1959 – It was Nellie Fox night at Comiskey Park. In the midst of a pennant race the Sox honored their second baseman and future Hall of Famer. Fox was given a new boat, shotgun and other presents and teared up when he spoke to the home crowd. He’d go on to become the American League’s M.V.P. that season hitting .306 with 70 RBI’s. On this night he went 0-3 with a run scored in the 5-4 win over Washington before almost 38-thousand fans. August 21, 1973 - Sox pitcher Stan Bahnsen took a no-hitter into the ninth inning against Cleveland. After getting the first two outs, former Sox outfielder Walt Williams got a ground single to left past third baseman Bill Melton. Melton inexplicably, was playing in, anticipating a possible bunt from Williams who later said under no circumstances would he try to break up a no-hitter by bunting late in the game. Stan then got the final out finishing with a one-hitter, striking out four, in the 4-0 win. August 21, 2005 - The Sox tied the club record by hitting four home runs in a single inning. It happened off the Yankees Randy Johnson in a 6-2 win at U.S. Cellular Field. The four who went deep were Tadahito Iguchi, Aaron Rowand, Paul Konerko and Chris Widger. The home runs came in the fourth inning. Iguchi, Rowand and Konerko went back-to-back-to-back.
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Actually then Mayor Harold Washington insisted that the only place he'd agree to as far as city money and help for the project would be right next to the original Comiskey Park. He also had members on the stadium board that would do as he demanded regarding any votes in the matter. Dr. Fletcher's next book on the 1990 team and the new stadium comes out next year, I'm a contributor to it and have already seen the historical research that Dr. Fletcher and John Owens have done regarding the stadium and Washington's insistence on where the stadium was to be built is clear.
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Didn't see this posted, this is the second time this season the kid is going to miss time with an arm-type issue: "The Sox put left-hander Noah Schultz, their first-round draft choice in 2022, on the injured list with a shoulder impingement after he was scratched from his start Sunday at Class A Kannapolis. Schultz has a 1.33 ERA with 38 strikeouts and six walks in 27 innings."
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That was always Jay Mariott's contention. And in fact the owners removed JR from the committee that advised the commissioner on labor issues over it.
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Brooks specifically said if one of the kids or dad happens to hit a line drive that nails another kid, the bat day promotion explains itself with the way people react to things today as in some drunk decides to get involved with someone and said person takes a bat to their head and regarding former players (old-timers) if there is a serious injury or a heart attack that results in a lawsuit.
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Hooray the Sox won a game. That's all I got and that's all they deserve.
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$75M = One of the worst White Sox LF Seasons
Lip Man 1 replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If he's having a good year he could be traded at the deadline. The Sox won't be doing anything so they may as well try to get something for him. -
One classic example came in 2000 when he showed up in the locker room in Minnesota after the Sox clinched and he said, 'I'm sure all Sox fans are now glad we made the White Flag Trade...' And then of course this on national TV the night the Sox clinched in 1983: "Harry and Jimmy wherever you are, eat your hearts out. I hope people realize what scum you are..."
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Unfortunately from what Brooks told me when I interviewed him past promotions like Old Timers Day, Bat Day and Fathers vs. Sons & Daughters are no longer being held because of insurance risks.
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August 20, 1915 - The White Sox purchased the contract of “Shoeless” Joe Jackson from the Cleveland Indians for $31,500 dollars and three journeyman players. Jackson even with the “Black Sox” scandal is still considered one of the greatest hitters in baseball history. “Babe” Ruth said he modeled his swing after Jackson’s and Ty Cobb said Jackson was the best hitter he ever saw. Joe hit .356 for his career in the Major Leagues. August 20, 1928 - Sox rookie Art “The Great” Shires made a sensational debut with four hits against the Red Sox in a 6-4 win. His first at-bat was a triple then he added three singles. He’s one of only 11 players to ever get four or more hits in their first big league game. “The Great” nickname by the way was self-given! August 20, 1929 - The Sox honored pitcher Urban “Red” Faber with a day at Comiskey Park. The Hall of Famer won 254 games, all with the Sox and had four seasons of 20 or more wins. On this day he threw 11 innings in a 5-4 loss to the Yankees. Before the game he was given a check for $2,700 dollars, a Majestic radio, a diamond ring and several baskets of flowers. August 20, 1948 - The Sox played before the largest regular season crowd in franchise history as they faced the Indians on a Friday night in Cleveland. An amazing 78,382 were on hand to see the Tribe edge the Sox 1-0 at Cleveland Stadium. The winning pitcher that night for the Indians was none other than Leroy “Satchel” Paige who only gave the Sox three hits. August 20, 1957 - Pitcher Bob Keegen tossed the first night no-hitter in Sox history as he blanked Washington 6-0 at Comiskey Park. It was the second game of a double header. He’d walk two Senators and only faced 28 men in a game that lasted only 1:55. Only one ball was really hard hit and that came in the first inning when outfielder Larry Doby made a backhand catch of a drive by Herb Plews. Keegen also drove in the last run of the night for the Sox with an RBI single. At 37 he became the oldest Sox pitcher to ever throw a no-hitter. Keegen would go 10-8 on the season that saw the Sox win 90 games and finish in second place. August 20, 1989 - After Sox star Harold Baines was traded to Texas on July 29, the team retired his uniform number #3 when the Rangers came to Chicago. He was only the third active player to have his uniform number retired by a club, joining Frank Robinson and Phil Niekro.
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$75M = One of the worst White Sox LF Seasons
Lip Man 1 replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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“There is energy; at times we lose it, then we get it back. It comes and goes in a game, and that’s unacceptable. We have to bring it every inning." - Pedro Grifol to DVS of the Sun-Times.
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This pitching staff is really, really bad...AAAA at best.
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Dodgers have completely overhauled Lynn pitch mix
Lip Man 1 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
A closer look at Lynn and the Sox days: https://soxmachine.com/2023/08/the-white-sox-traded-for-lance-lynn-then-stopped-striving/ -
I'm guessing what Sox fans remain are so traumatized and frustrated that they are just trying to put this season and the recent ones out of their minds as much as possible.
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August 19, 1930 - The White Sox sent $20,000 dollars along with outfielder Doug Taitt to the Cubs in return for minor league shortstop Luke Appling. The deal was engineered by the front office’s Milt Stock who was future Sox manager Eddie Stanky’s father-in-law. Appling would go on to have a Hall of Fame career with the Sox winning batting titles in 1936 and 1943. That season of 1936 would also find him driving in 128 RBI’s. His 20-year career would see him collect 2,749 hits. August 19, 1953 – Sox star left hander Billy Pierce’s run of almost 40 consecutive shutout innings ended at home against the Browns when former Sox outfielder and Pierce teammate, Don Lenhardt got an RBI double in the sixth inning of a game eventually the Sox lost 4-3 in 10 innings. Pierce’s streak started with a complete game shutout in Washington on August 3. He’d have three complete game shutouts in the streak along with two relief appearances covering almost eight innings. He’d have four wins and a save in the run. That year Billy went 18-12 with a 2.72 ERA. August 19, 1970 - The White Sox set the franchise record for most runs ever scored in the ninth inning of a game when they got 11 runs in Boston. Earlier in the year the Sox scored 22 runs at Fenway Park and on this day the 11 runs turned a loss into a 13-5 win for pitcher Wilbur Wood. The 11 runs were scored without the benefit of a single home run as 16 men batted in the inning.
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Interesting take on Robert's comment about 'he's not a leader:' https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/8/18/23837763/chicago-white-sox-luis-robert-jr-yordan-alvarez-houston-astros-jose-abreu-leader-mvp And Tim Anderson met the media today and talked about it: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/8/18/23837857/white-sox-tim-anderson-i-have-to-be-better-i-will-be-better
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By all accounts the name will remain the Chicago Bears (as well it should in my opinion). Doesn't bother me in the slightest that they are playing in the suburbs, it's all the same Chicago area just like the Giants and Jets still have the New York moniker (and they actually play in New Jersey...)
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I was actually told by a source over the winter that Wintrust actually offered a better deal for the Sox then Guaranteed Rate but there were other factors involved including one involving a high ranking member of the front office and some "family" connections to that company. The other issue was Wintrust wanted the named changed back to Comiskey Park and JR did not like that one bit.
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Even the Sox wouldn't be so stupid as to start mentioning this now. Not with what has been happening on and off the field since basically 2007.
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I'd suggest both. The losing culture of the White Sox has developed for over a decade starting in 2007, it hasn't changed much. Players can feel it, sense it, now add in no rules and no real leadership and it snowballs. Losing begets losing and winning begets winning.
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8/16 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT
Lip Man 1 replied to Bob Sacamano's topic in 2023 Season in Review
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The other factors and don't think for a moment the Sox haven't already thought of this. A complete "rebuild" yet again turns the spotlight even more on the incompetent front office and admitting another rebuild is needed could cause what remains of the fan base to simply leave the sinking ship or not care anymore.
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And before you ask according to DVS in the story the Sox are going to play a man short for the length of his suspension. Words fail me...all you can do is laugh. ? https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/8/17/23835674/white-sox-tim-anderson-to-begin-serving-suspension-friday Regarding that bizarre Sox "philosophy" on playing a man or two short this is what I was told over the winter for what it is worth: “The White Sox playing shorthanded started in 2007 when Jermaine Dye got hurt and Kenny Williams refused to call up Brian Anderson or Ryan Sweeney. Maybe they were cheap, maybe they wanted to protect Herm’s record of keeping guys off the DL.” (Author’s Note: Herm Schneider was the Sox longtime head trainer and for years the Sox were among the league leaders in keeping players healthy.) “Jake Peavy made the comment one time, ‘They have no reservations about playing shorthanded.”