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I can almost guarantee it. Moncada will insist on it because he knows this is the final year of his contract, the Sox won't be resigning him and he needs to make a good impression on a potential future team.

Worst case scenario for Moncada...he doesn't have to work another day in his life if he can't play baseball anymore. We should all be so lucky.

July 26, 1942 – 17-year-old Chuck Comiskey was being groomed to take over the team and his passions boiled over on this afternoon. In the first game against the Athletics at Comiskey Park, umpire John Quinn kicked out Sox manager Jimmy Dykes for arguing an interference call. Don Kolloway was ruled to have run into a batted ball in fair territory in the eighth inning. That brought the young Comiskey out on the field to continue the argument. Sox fans roared their approval over his pluck. It turned out he also was ejected by Quinn. The Sox would win that game 2-1 before losing the second one 3-2 in 10 innings. July 26, 1987 - Sox starter Rich Dotson, who had already thrown a one-hitter and lost in Baltimore in 1983, had a perfect game for over seven innings against the Yankees at Comiskey Park and a 2-0 lead. That however all went out the window when Mike Pagliarulo singled. Before the frame was over, Dotson got tagged with three runs and would eventually lose the game 5-2. The key blow was struck by future Sox outfielder Dan Pasqua who had a pinch-hit three run homer in that frame.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/7/25/23807757/im-disappointed-this-is-on-me-its-simple-white-sox-manager-pedro-grifol-says

Total, complete, unadulterated garbage tonight...all aspects, all areas. The team/organization has no heart, no guts and no brains.

They have and they all sucked...remember Lopez imploding and how about Kelly? ?

Have to justify that salary some how. Seriously I won't be surprised at all when Hahn announces in October that he needs back surgery.

Good point but let's assume he was healthy, maybe instead of losing 14 games where they had a lead in the 7th inning or later they "only" lose nine.

That's an interesting question he's got to know in his heart of hearts that he has failed as a G.M. The question is will he ever admit it to the media/fan base?

To each his own, my negativity towards this organization is based on facts and the won/lost record especially since the start of the 2007 season. Losing Hendriks didn't help but regardless if he was 100% available all year the results wouldn't be much better. With all the issues with this roster it's delusional to think otherwise. As delusional as say thinking that JR is going to sell anytime soon. ?

For those that are interested here are the dates for the 14 games where the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later AND wound up eventually losing the game: March 31, 7th inning (Graveman/Diekman), April 14, 7th inning (Diekman/Lopez), April 21 9th inning (Lopez), April 29 7th inning (Lynn), May 4 8th inning (Lopez), May 27 7th inning (Kelly), May 28 9th inning (Kelly), June 10 9th inning (Kelly), June 11 9th inning (Graveman), July 1 8th inning (Kelly), July 4 8th inning (Kelly), July 9 9th inning (Graveman), July 22 7th inning (Middleton/Santos), July 23 9th & 10th innings (Graveman/Banks). Also the White Sox are 4-9 in extra inning games because they are so bad at fundamentals even with a "ghost runner" on second base they can't score him. And remember this is the most expensive bullpen in baseball.

Not without starting pitchers.

July 25, 1925 - Sox catcher and future Hall of Famer Ray “Cracker” Schalk played in his 1,576th game behind the plate…at that time it was the Major League record. He played his entire career except for five games with the Sox between 1912 and 1928. July 25, 1954 - In the first game of a twin bill at Boston, Sox pitcher Jack Harshman set the franchise record by striking out 16 Red Sox. Harshman, a converted first baseman, was taught a ‘slip pitch,’ a variation of a palm ball by manager Paul Richards. He’d get the win 5-2. At the time it was two off the Major League record. 13 of his strikeouts were swinging on the day. The Sox would then sweep the double header taking the second game, 4-2. July 25, 1955 – As part of the class of 1955 White Sox pitcher Ted Lyons entered the Hall of Fame on this day. Lyons spent his entire 21-year career with the White Sox winning a total of 260 games. 17 times he won at least 10 games in a season and in three of those years he won over 20. He saved 25 games and had a staggering 356 complete games! July 25, 1955 –On the same day former White Sox pitcher Ted Lyons entered the Hall of Fame, former White Sox catcher Ray Schalk garnered the same honor. The two were actually teammates for a little over five seasons on the South Side. Schalk caught over 17-hundred games in his career which was the Major League record at the time. He led the league in fielding, putouts, assists and chances for a single season and caught four no-hitters including a perfect game with the team thrown by Charlie Robertson. He was the best defensive catcher in baseball in the early part of the 20th century. July 25, 1959 - Marathon game #2 of the 1959 season took place again against the Orioles and again at Comiskey Park. This one was another 17-inning affair that saw the Sox tie the game in the ninth and then win it thanks to Harry “Suitcase” Simpson’s single, scoring Sammy Esposito. The final was 3-2. Bob Shaw started and went 11 innings, Omar “Turk” Lown then went the last six innings and got the win. July 25, 2020 – Some afternoons you just can’t miss. Such was the case for Sox utility player Leury Garcia. In a game against the Twins at Guaranteed Rate Field, Leury homered from both sides of the plate in a 10-3 pasting of Minnesota. His first home run came hitting left-handed off of Zach Littell. The other long ball came hitting right-handed off of Devin Smeltzer. On the day he’d go 3 for 4 with two runs scored and four RBI’s. He became the eighth White Sox player to pull off this feat.

Watch the podcast and they explain their points of view.

Bummer has had more than one "bad year" but because he is left handed he may be of some value to another club.

If you read the book, "The Lords of the Realm" by John Helyar he goes into detail with what the independent Stanford economist found when he was allowed to see the owners books during the 1994 labor impasse. He (the economist) basically gutted the owners claims that the vast majority of teams were losing money and specifically detailed ways they were cooking the books. One example was the Braves who were owned by Ted Turner, the same Ted Turner who owned WTBS the station that showed their games on TV. Turner was "selling" the rights to TBS at far below market value then claiming the franchise wasn't able to get as much money in their broadcasting rights. Of course with Turner also owning the TV station all the advertising revenue was still going into his pockets but they could claim the Braves as an entity weren't getting anything. The owners were furious at the economist and vowed they would never allow the books to be examined again if at all possible. There is very good reason not to trust the owners or their claims of "hardship" in an industry that according to Sports Illustrated made 10.2 billion dollars last year.

I hope you are right.

True especially McGuffey. He is always talking about how the issues with this organization all lead back to the front office not doing their jobs properly.

When was the last time JR fired someone in mid season? Gene Lamont in May of 95?????

All national TV/radio money is shared equally among all clubs along with revenue from merchandise sales. When MLB sold off BamTech a few years ago each club got a 50 million dollar check so there is some revenue sharing. As far as a salary cap, forget it. It will never happen as long as the MLBPA is the strongest union in the world. And I agree with their position. If there are owners who refuse to compete for whatever reason or reasons let them sell to someone who will.

I'm talking about the Cubs getting into the playoffs. They are only 6.5 out with two months to go and may no longer be sellers next week.

All I can tell you is that I just watched it. It dropped 13 hours ago via NBC Sports Chicago. Runs :40 minutes and has been seen by 1.7K. That's all I've got.

As much as I hate losing to the Cubs, the very last thing I want to see is those clowns sneaking into a wild card post season spot, it may be best for the Sox to really bottom-out, just lose...lose...and lose. Lose 100 games if possible. That may be the only thing that forces JR to change and even then I won't guarantee that it would...but you've got to try.

They actually have by association when they talk about the shortcomings of the front office and how accountability is needed. They have mentioned JR by name at times saying how it's up to him to change things and how "miserable" he is.

Thank you, I'll remember that.