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It's on You Tube, I watched it on my TV, don't know the link. If you really want to watch/listen I'm sure you are perfectly capable of finding it.

Just watched it on You Tube. Wow...he and McGuffey bury Grifol. Just absolutely skewer him. He acts like "his s%*# don't stink..." - Garfien. Talks about his arrogance (which is par for the course for this franchise/front office isn't it?????) Worth watching/listening to. I've always considered Garfien a house-man but I've got to give him some credit...he is really pissed off and laying into this franchise now. Guess he isn't worried about his job anymore for some reason.

Any realistic shot Giolito had of returning by whatever means ended when the Sox played hardball with him over 50,000 dollars this past off season. Both he and his agent let their feelings be known after it happened. He gone!

I'm guessing Balta is comparing the Sox injury situation to other teams and from that perspective he's probably right. But.......... Given the Sox have ZERO depth, as you said ANY injury kills them and the fact that the "core" group, the players they were building around, can't seem to go a month without something happening makes your point valid. This has been the situation for years going back to the start of the rebuild in 2016 when they had trouble keeping people healthy at all levels.

I think a better question is how does the fan base move forward? The answer to me and I'm not being facetious is to take care of yourself...watch what you eat/drink, see your doctor, exercise and hope to be around when new ownership takes over as it must at some point in time. Seriously because nothing is really going to significantly change until ownership does. This organization is so incompetent, dysfunctional and inept that whatever they do will probably be half-assed and blow up in their faces. When you have as many serious issues as this franchise has in so many different areas...from talent, depth, unwillingness to take risks, poor development at all levels, "baseball-stupid" players and self-imposed financial limitations in the name of "fiscal responsibility" I don't see any way out with the current individuals running things.

July 24, 1960 - In the first game of a double header at New York, future Hall of Famer Nellie Fox banged out his 2,000th career hit. On the afternoon he’d have a pair in the 6-3 Sox victory. The hit came in the first inning on a single to left field off of Jim Coates. The Sox would split the double header for the day. July 24, 1968 - Sox relief pitcher Hoyt Wilhelm appeared in both ends of a double header versus the Athletics at Comiskey Park and in doing so set the record for most appearances by a pitcher. The future Hall of Famer broke Cy Young’s record of 906 games. “Old Tilt” would appear in a staggering 1,070 games before he retired. Wilhelm became the top relief pitcher of the 1960's. In his six years with the Sox, he’d win 41 games and save 99 others while producing some astonishingly low ERA’s considering he threw the knuckleball. His highest ERA between 1963 and 1968 was 2.64, every other season it was below two. July 24, 2020 – Because of the worldwide Coronavirus pandemic the regular season started four months later than normal. A bizarre, bastardized 60 game season was ordered by Commissioner Rob Manfred after the owners and players union could not agree on a longer schedule. There were also new bizarre rules put in place, while many people questioned the wisdom of sports being playing while thousands were getting infected and many were dying. For the White Sox, hoping to build on three years of rebuilding and a terrific off season, they hosted the Twins who beat them up 10-5 putting a damper immediately on things. July 24, 2022 – After many years of waiting and coming close, White Sox great Orestes “Minnie” Minoso was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. The “Cuban Comet” was the first Latin player to excel in the Major Leagues and opened the door, much like Jackie Robinson did for Negros, to the wealth of talent in Mexico and Central America. Minoso was a six-time All-Star representing the White Sox, was named the American League Rookie of the Year by The Sporting News in 1951, won two Gold Gloves with the White Sox and led the league at various times in triples, stolen bases and hit by pitches. He batted over .300 seven times with the Sox, scored 100 or more runs four times and drove in at least 100 RBI’s four times. His combination of speed and power were unique for the time period. He ranks among the franchise all-time leaders in triples, at bats, walks, runs scored, RBI’s, hit by pitches, hits, total bases, on-base percentage, doubles, extra base hits and OPS. July 24, 2022 – Sox starting pitcher Dylan Cease was masterful in beating Cleveland at Guaranteed Rate Field. Cease went six innings allowing no runs on seven hits, striking out four in the 6-3 win. That marked his 11th consecutive start allowing one run or fewer which tied the modern era record for pitchers. It had only happened twice before. Bob Gibson of the Cardinals did it in 1968 and the Mets Jacob deGrom turned the trick in the 2021 season.

Remember JR said that finishing third could mean a good season ?

Well the bullpen can at least say they are well paid for their incompetence...the highest paid bullpen in the game! ?

It's called they are "baseball-stupid" when it comes to fundamentals. And that wins or loses games.

They've been doing that for a few weeks now. Ozzie said he doesn't even like to take about Grifol because "it aggravates him..." That he "doesn't know" what's going on with guys.

It's now official 14 times this year the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. Six times they lost the lead in the 9th inning, Graveman had it happen to him three times now (June 11, July 9 and today). The highest paid bullpen in baseball. ?

By the way just to clarify I reached out to Rick about his 130 million payroll figure and he clarified that he was just counting the guys currently on the 26 man roster. If you add up all the guys under contract and injured it's closer to 180 million.

If they go on to lose it will be the 14th time this year they had a lead in the 7th inning or later and lost the game. It would be the 6th time they lost the lead in the 9th inning. Graveman has been responsible for 3 1/2 of those blown 14 times again assuming the Sox lose. It would be the third time he would have coughed up the lead in the 9th inning. The highest paid bullpen in baseball!

Dropped this afternoon at the Sun-Times. He calls it like it should be: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/7/23/23804872/in-jerry-reinsdorfs-bizarre-world-its-wonderful-life-where-no-one-gets-fired-white-sox-rick-hahn

The other factor is this, a comment from a source told to me this past off season for my "State of the Sox" story: “JR is 86 and he’s in great shape, he looks good, still drives himself around but I just think at this point he simply doesn’t want to be bothered with having to bring in a new front office, maybe he thinks in a few years it won’t matter anyway.”

His ego won't allow him to admit he has screwed things up.

Garfein has reported that JR is "miserable" and won't go through another "rebuild." That means a "retooling" or whatever phrase you wish to use. The problem, of course, is that the payroll is going to be dramatically reduced and with the team refusing to take risks and go after "superstar" free agents difference-making help isn't forthcoming even through JR is "miserable." Nothing changes until new ownership steps in. Anything else, even if Hahn, is canned or booted upstairs is simply cosmetic.

July 23, 1986 – It was one of, if not the worst, deal made by G.M. Ken “Hawk” Harrelson as he sent Bobby Bonilla to the Pirates for pitcher Jose DeLeon. Bonilla, selected by the Sox in the Major League draft in December 1985, showed flashes of brilliance in his half season on the South Side. He’d eventually turn into a complete, dominating, five tool type player with the Pirates during their divisional title runs in the early 90’s, although he was a handful because of his attitude. July 23, 2009 - It had only happened 17 times before. On this date the Sox Mark Buehrle became the 18th pitcher to ever throw a perfect game when he shut down Tampa 5-0. Buehrle was helped in the top of the ninth inning when Dewayne Wise, an otherwise mediocre player, made the catch of his career, leaping above the wall in left center to snare a ball hit by Gabe Kapler with one out. On the way down he started to lose the ball then snatched it out of the air with his other hand. Buehrle completed the task in 2:03, the exact same amount of time as his no-hitter in 2007. He became only the fourth pitcher to ever throw a perfect game and a no-hitter joining Cy Young, Sandy Koufax and Randy Johnson. July 23, 2016 - It was certainly a strange and bizarre situation for the Sox. Chris Sale, arguably the best pitcher in the American League and one of the best in baseball went on a pregame rampage before his scheduled start against the Tigers at U.S. Cellular Field. Sale was upset that he had to wear a throwback Sox pajama style jersey as part of a promotion for the game. Sale reportedly said it was uncomfortable. With the heat index over one hundred degrees wearing a dark blue/black jersey probably wasn’t the smartest thing to do either. Sale decided to take matters into his own hands, as during batting practice, he destroyed all of the game jerseys the team was supposed to wear by cutting them up with scissors. He also said publicly the White Sox were more concerned with public relations and uniforms than winning games. He would be suspended for five games for the incident.

"I don’t like our mental lapses. Our baserunning needs to be better. Our inconsistency in discipline at the plate needs to be better." - Pedro Grifol to DVS of the Sun-Times. Been saying the same things ad nauseum for months yet nothing has changed.

Ball's lawsuit was thrown out of court although I think there was some sort of settlement.

In 1969 Art Allyn had a handshake deal with Selig to sell the club and move it but that's when John Allyn stepped in. He told his brother that if he wanted to sell the club and move it that he would have to present his reasoning for doing so to the company (Artnell) board of directors. John insisted on this. Art decided not to do that and instead sold the club to John (which is what John wanted to do all along) More detailed info on this situation can be found in the book: "Chili Dog MVP, Dick Allen, the 1972 White Sox and a transforming Chicago."

Holes in the rotation, little depth, significant decrease in team payroll, injuries continuing. We already know next season is going to be brutally bad regardless if Eloy is with the club or not. Him playing 75 or so games again in 2024 will not make one iota of difference.

13th time this season the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. 13 times...(and counting) The most expensive bullpen in baseball! ?

“Accountability around here is not a problem.”- Kenny Williams 4/25/23

He's made it clear he is not selling while he is alive.