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"You can’t have good clubhouse chemistry with self-serving players like Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly and Kendall Graveman backstabbing their teammates along the way and pretending they weren’t part of the problem. If any of the current Sox pitchers still revere their former teammates, perhaps the clubhouse chemistry is doomed to fail again in ’24." - Paul Sullivan Chicago Tribune 8/16 Sounds like there is more to this situation than has become public

Joakim Soria, Alex Colome, Evan Marshall, Matt Foster, Codi Heuer, Anthony Swarzak and Tommy Kahnle come to mind.

Cubs fans, even kids, are all "class": "A young fan wearing a Cubs jersey in the first rows behind the on-deck circle showed Robert a finger and not his pinky. Robert took his index finger to his lips as if to silence him." DVS with the postgame story in the Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/8/15/23833948/spoiler-alert-struggling-white-sox-win-another-one-at-wrigley

Nice that this triple A team showed some pride and got a win. Now pulling for a Brewers win in L.A. Push the Cubs 4 1/2 back!

I can tell you the shareholders haven't lost money and made money on their investment.

Would love to see him fired but unless Kenny and Hahn go with him it will not be happening. They won't admit they blew another crucial decision.

Loria has the distinction of ruining two big league franchises.

His ERA is around 16 so far at Birmingham. He's a few years away.

August 15, 1922 - In front of 2,500 fans at Fenway Park, the White Sox and Red Sox set an A.L. record with 35 singles in a 19-11 Chicago win. The White Sox had 21 of the one-baggers, Boston 14. The two clubs combined for 43 hits total (25 Chicago, 18 Boston) and were a combined 23-of-39 with runners in scoring position. Eddie Mulligan and Earl Sheely led the club with three singles apiece (Sheely added a double).The White Sox actually trailed this one, 10-8, after Boston put up a seven run sixth inning. But the South Siders scored 11 in the final three frames, including their own seven spot in the ninth, to put the game away. Ted Blankenship wound up getting the win in relief with Urban “Red” Faber picking up the save. August 15, 1973 - G. M. Roland Hemond acquired starting pitcher Jim Kaat on waivers from Minnesota. All “Kitty” did was become a two-time 20 game winner for the Sox in 1974 and 1975. He made the All-Star Team in 1975 and won 45 games in two and a quarter years in Chicago. August 15, 1996 - White Sox first round draft pick Bobby Seay was declared a free agent because the team failed to offer a formal contract within 15 days of the draft. He was reportedly asking for a two million dollar signing bonus which would have been a record for the time and refused to negotiate with Sox G.M. Ron Schueler when he flew down to see him in Florida telling him to talk with his agent Scott Boras. The southpaw became the first player in the 32 years of the draft to become a free agent in the same summer he was selected. Seay signed with Tampa Bay in November for around three million dollars and made his MLB debut six years later.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Thornton, Quentin and Eaton were not waived by their former clubs, the Sox acquired them in trades. Not the same as a first round draft pick being so bad they were simply released by the organization.

And we of course have seen how often the Sox are able to rescue failed talent in the past with this front office. Can probably count the number of times on one hand. The fact is these former first round draft picks wouldn't be available in the first place if they were any good.

Just an adjustment: "He's bringing in a lot of former failed top draft picks..."

They actually signed over 75 NHL players that first season. I was a big Chicago Cougars fan. The WHA deliberately targeted Boston and Chicago because they knew those owners were particularly unwilling to spend money on player salary.

Just a few points: Wirtz didn't trade Bobby. Bobby signed a one million dollar deal with Winnipeg of the WHA. Wirtz wouldn't come close to matching that salary figure. Halas traded Ditka to the Eagles.

August 14, 1910 - The Sox celebrated the first sellout in team history at Comiskey Park when over 26 thousand fans poured in to see a double header split against the New York Highlanders (Yankees.) August 14, 1915 - The Sox purchased the contract of pitcher Claude “Lefty” Williams from Salt Lake City of the Pacific Coast League. Williams might have been inducted into the Hall of Fame for his abilities if not for the 1919 “Black Sox” incident. In his four seasons he’d go 81-44 for the White Sox. Twice winning over 20 games. August 14, 1919 - Center fielder Oscar “Happy” Felsch tied a Major League record by recording four outfield assists in a 15-6 loss to the Red Sox at Comiskey Park. In that same season, Felsch ended up setting a record for outfielder double plays in a season, with 15. August 14, 1939 – It was the first time a Major League night game was played in Chicago with the Sox besting the St. Louis Browns 5-2. Johnny Rigney got the complete game win with 10 strikeouts before 30 thousand fans. After he retired Rigney would eventually become a vice president with the team. August 14, 1983 - Catcher Carlton Fisk appeared to hit a go ahead home run in the fifth inning off the Orioles Scott McGregor only to have home plate umpire Jim Evans overrule third base umpire Greg Kosc and say it was a ground rule double. The decision was based on the impression that a fan appeared to have leaned over the wall to catch it. The Sox wound up losing 2-1. That fan then called Jimmy Piersall’s radio show afterwards to give his side of the story. TV replays showed he was not leaning over the wall when he caught the ball. Manager Tony LaRussa went ballistic…arguing, kicking dirt, then taking the third base bag out of its position and flinging it towards the Sox dugout. Naturally he was thrown out for it. Just another in a series of bizarre plays that took place against Baltimore down through the years. August 14, 2008 - White Sox outfielder Carlos Quentin set the Major League record when he was hit by a pitch for the sixth consecutive game. Quentin would get hit 20 times in the 2008 season. August 14, 2008 - In a 9-2 win over the Royals at U.S. Cellular Field, the Sox would hit four consecutive home runs for the first time in franchise history. The four came in a six run, sixth inning and were hit by Jim Thome, Paul Konerko, Alexei Ramirez and Juan Uribe in order after two were out. It was the sixth time in Major League history a team hit four home runs in a row at the time.

Not happening with Pedro but the good news is the Sox laying down and dying to the Brewers kept them in first place and screwed the Cubs.

Great catch!

Since no one expects either Kenny or Hahn to get fired (or retire or resign) you think they are going to fire Pedro after only one year and basically admit to the world that they screwed up big time yet again? Not happening.

10 more losses to guarantee another losing season under Rick Hahn! “Accountability around here is not a problem.”- Kenny Williams 4/25/23

August 13, 1943 - Future Hall of Famer, shortstop Luke Appling collected his 2,000th hit in a game. It came against the Red Sox helping the White Sox to a 3-2 win. The hit drove in a run in the first inning off of Cecil “Tex” Hughson as Wally Moses scored. August 13, 1954 - Sox pitcher Jack Harshman who is tied for the franchise mark for most strikeouts in a game, notched another milestone. On this date against the Tigers, Harshman pitched all 16 innings in the Sox 1-0 win at Comiskey Park. The Sox finally plated a run in the last of the 16th on a triple by “Minnie” Minoso scoring Nellie Fox. Harshman allowed nine hits and faced 57 hitters. Incredibly Detroit’s Al Aber also went the distance in the contest! Billy Pierce also threw 16 innings for the Sox in a game in 1959. The franchise mark is held by Ted Lyons who threw 21 innings in a game in 1929. August 13, 1967- All season long the Sox battled the big boys, the Tigers, Twins and Red Sox in the greatest pennant race in American League history. This game marked the beginning of the end of the dream. The Sox lost a controversial game to the Twins 3-2 when Tommie Agee was called out at third base on a close play in the ninth inning. He doubled to center to lead off the inning and tried to stretch it into a triple. The Sox dropped out of first place for the first time in two months as the Twins swept them three straight games in Minnesota. After the game manager Eddie Stanky kept Vice President Hubert Humphrey waiting outside the locker room with reporters saying, “What do I need Humphrey for? Can he hit?” August 13, 1996 - Sox third baseman Robin Ventura slugged his franchise record ninth grand slam leading the Sox to an 8-4 win over the Yankees. It came in the fifth inning off of David Weathers and erased a 4-1 New York lead. August 13, 2002 - Sox infielder Jose Valentin homered from both sides of the plate in the same game. He did it in Texas off the Rangers Dennys Reyes and Todd Van Poppel. The shot off Reyes was a grand slam. He drove in six runs in the 12-3 win. Those were his only two hits for the night. Valentin first did this trick in 2000 and would do it a third time in 2003!

Grifol like others in the organization should not make any comments ever about player availability. Get the trainer or doctor out there to talk about it. If they aren't doing it then shut up.

The countdown has begun! Only 11 more losses to guarantee the Sox their 8th losing season in the 11 years Rick Hahn has been G.M. The excitement is building to a fever pitch! ? “Accountability around here is not a problem.”- Kenny Williams 4/25/23

Not that it really matters but this is the 15th time the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later...and lost the game.

Garfien as pregame and postgame host is around the team all the time he is always referring to conversations he has had with players current and former. I'm guessing there's a lot more he knows that he isn't telling. And this is a big change for him and I welcome it, in my mind he's no longer a house organ.

August 12, 1984 – In his sixth year on the ballot, long time White Sox shortstop Luis Aparicio was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Aparicio was one of the most athletic shortstops to ever play and he brought the lost art of the stolen base back to baseball leading the A.L. in that category nine straight seasons. The former 1956 Rookie of the Year by both the Baseball Writers Association of America and The Sporting News played 10 years with the White Sox. He was runner-up to teammate Nellie Fox in the 1959 M.V.P. voting, won seven Gold Gloves while playing for the White Sox and represented the White Sox in six All-Star Games. August 12, 1986 - Future Hall of Famer Steve Carlton, picked up on waivers by the Sox, made his American League debut. “Lefty” only went three innings giving up six runs in a 7-3 loss to the Tigers in Detroit. In 10 games, Carlton would rebound and have four wins, a 3.69 ERA and 40 strikeouts in 63 innings before being released at season’s end. August 12, 1990 - The Sox set what was believed to be the longest wait in baseball history before calling a game because of rain. The Sox were slated to play the Rangers at Comiskey Park in an afternoon contest starting at 1PM Central time. Persistent rains caused a delay before the first pitch was even thrown. The Sox asked Texas if they would fly back to Chicago on an off day to make the game up if they called it and the Rangers said no. So the Sox waited until the evening before ‘officially’ calling the game. The wait lasted seven hours and 23 minutes!!! As it turned out the Sox had to play the makeup game in Arlington as part of a double header the following week. August 12, 2007 - Sox closer Bobby Jenks tied the Major League record at the time, when he retired his 41st consecutive hitter in a game against the Mariners. Jenks’ streak started back on June 17 at Cleveland. The record was originally set by the Giants Jim Barr in the early 1970’s. That record was later broken in 2009 by the Sox Mark Buehrle who retired 45 consecutive batters. August 12, 2017 - When Sox first baseman Jose Abreu went deep with one out in the fourth inning against the Royals, he became the first player in team history with four consecutive seasons of at least 20 home runs to start his career. Jermaine Dye and Jose Valentin opened the White Sox portion of their careers with five consecutive seasons of at least 20 homers, and Jim Thome, Paul Konerko and Carlos Quentin started their White Sox careers with four consecutive seasons of at least 20 homers. Abreu homered again in the sixth; marking his ninth career multi-homer game, both came off of Ian Kennedy. He also became the first Sox player with 25 home runs in four straight seasons starting a career. August 12, 2020 – For the fifth time in franchise history the White Sox led off a game with back-to-back home runs. It was shortstop Tim Anderson and outfielder Eloy Jimenez who turned the trick in Detroit staking the Sox to a 2-0 lead over Matthew Boyd and the Tigers. The Sox would go on to win the game 7-5. August 12, 2021 – It was a remarkable night in a remarkable location. It was the first “Field of Dreams” game played at the location of the movie of the same name in Dyersville, Iowa. The White Sox hosted the Yankees with both teams wearing throwback uniforms. An eight thousand seat stadium was built next to the field where the movie was shot and the game was nationally televised by Fox Sports. Some of the original cast members, including baseball fan Kevin Costner, came out to take in the celebration. The classic baseball movie was released in 1989. Jose Abreu hit the first ever home run for a big-league game in the state of Iowa when he connected in the first inning. The Sox would win 9-8 after blowing a three run ninth inning lead on Tim Anderson’s walk-off two run home run that set off fireworks in center field to recreate Comiskey Park.