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Everyone else on the team seems to be hurt again so why not with a guy who has already been hurt 18 previous times. ? Or maybe the selling off has already begun!

But remember the owner is happy with him and Rick is getting well paid to fail! ?

We've seen that for years with this ownership, even with a great young corps in the early 90's the Sox were always a good hitter short or another quality starting pitcher. The later cost them dearly in 1996 and 2003.

Remember "genius" Rick felt sure the Sox could get by with only five starters and Davis martin. Not working out very well is it??????????????? ?

At least 5 1/2 back.

He signed with the White Sox. ?

It's a combination of both. You are absolutely correct about the "core" players but it is also true that TLR wanted Garcia and Kelly.

Right now the national deals are ranking in money hand over fist. And the regional networks will eventually be picked up by local stations (a la what is happening in Phoenix) They'll recoup some of the losses. No MLB owner is going to be wondering where the next meal is coming from.

BIG SURPRISE! Think you need some starting pitching now Mr. Hahn????????? ?

July 2, 1909 - The Sox ran wild in an unusual 15-3 romp over St. Louis. In this game the Sox stole eleven bases with three steals of home and three double steals. Sox third baseman Bill Purcell led the way with three swipes. Eight different Sox players stole a base in the game! July 2, 1910 - The Sox won their first game in the original Comiskey Park, besting the St. Louis Browns 3-2. Guy “Doc” White went the distance allowing one earned run on six hits for the win. He was called “Doc” because he graduated from Georgetown University dental school. July 2, 1923 - Future Hall of Famer Ted Lyons made his White Sox, Major League debut. He threw a perfect inning in a 7-2 loss at St. Louis. That season in nine games he’d go 2-1 with a start to his credit. July 2, 1930 - Outfielder Carl Reynolds became the first White Sox player to homer three times in a game when he did it at New York and he did it in spectacular fashion. It came in the second game of a twin bill that the Sox won 15-4. He went 5 for 6 with four runs scored in the game. He also became the first player in team history to drive home eight RBI’s in a game. Reynolds homered in the first three innings of the game and his first and third home runs on the day were both inside the park home runs to left field! The Sox lost the first game 5-1. July 2, 1977 - With first place at stake, the Sox beat the Twins 13-8. Jim Spencer, the Sox Gold Glove winning first baseman, became the first Sox player to ever drive in eight runs, twice in a season. He drove in eight runs the first time on May 14 in an 18-2 slaughter of Cleveland. On this day Spencer went 3 for 5 including a grand slam, a three-run home run and an RBI single. July 2, 1980 - Sox radio announcer Jimmy Piersall attacked Daily Herald sportswriter Rob Galas after Galas wrote a story speculating why Piersall was fired as a part time Sox coach. Spectators including White Sox historian/author Rich Lindberg, had to physically jump in and pull Piersall away. At the time Piersall was choking Galas. Yes, this is the same Rob Galas who later would become the Sox marketing director. Later on, that same day, the Sox Ross Baumgarten would one hit the Angels, winning 1-0. Rod Carew got California’s only hit, on a single leading off the seventh inning. July 2, 2016 – On this day the Sox tied a franchise record that had stood for almost 51 years. When J.B. Shuck pounded a home run in the fourth inning of a game in Houston, it marked the 15th consecutive solo home run hit by the team. That tied the original mark which was set between September 2-25, 1965. The individual breakdown of the home runs saw Brett Lawrie with three, Shuck with three, Tim Anderson and Todd Frazier with two each and Tyler Saladino, Dioner Navarro, Alex Avila, Adam Eaton and Melky Cabrera each with one. The Sox would beat the Astros in the game 7-6. July 2, 2021 – It was a nice way to start a Major League career. Gavin Sheets, son of former Major League player Larry Sheets, started off his White Sox career by setting a franchise record. Sheets became the first player ever to have both a hit and an RBI in his first four games with the team. His impressive start came against the Twins at home and the Tigers in Detroit. In his first four games he went 6 for 15, with eight RBI’s and two home runs.

Betting money is when KW retires, Hahn kicked upstairs and Getz takes over as G.M. (Assuming JR still owns the team...)

I wouldn't bet on it.

As I've stated before MLB is now a 10 billion dollar a year industry. The income sources both domestically and internationally are staggering. The TV money has never been higher. Attendance matters to be sure, no question...but...it doesn't matter like it did in the 50's, 60's or 70's anymore either. And you can bet this payroll won't be around much longer. The only way to know for sure would be for JR to open his books to an independent auditor and after 1994 you know that will never happen again.

I have a hard time thinking they really give a damn. If they did heads would have rolled a long time ago. Remember as long as they are making money the owner is happy and everyone just pays lip service to "winning" to appease the media/fans.

According to White Sox.com today Yoan is now not expected back until August. The Sox are stuck with him.

Oh yes they can. Still making a boatload of money and tickets for the rest of the year have already been sold and the money is in the bank as well as the TV revenue.

10th time this season, the most expensive bullpen in baseball, had a lead in the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. Kelly has been directly responsible for four of those losses.

He probably works cheap though! ?

Led by the same incompetent clowns who screwed up the first rebuild. ? And remember with all the money pouring in from different domestic and international sources attendance isn't "make or break" anymore.

Every time I think this incompetent, dysfunctional and inept organization has hit bottom they prove me wrong. ?

July 1, 1905 - Sox pitcher Frank Owen won both games of a double header at St. Louis. The scores were 3-2 and 2-0. In both games he went the distance and only allowed the Browns seven total hits for the afternoon. He is one of only 10 pitchers in baseball history to accomplish this feat. (i.e. two complete game wins in a single day) July 1, 1910 - The Sox opened the original Comiskey Park and lost 2-0 to the St. Louis Browns. Within three days of the first game, three Sox players were sidelined with injuries thus beginning, in the minds of some, a “Curse of the Comiskey’s” or “White Sox Curse.” Sox owner Charles Comiskey felt he had cursed his club because he broke a traditional Irish belief of “Never on Friday” which was the day of the week the stadium opened. Infielder Lena Blackburne stroked the first two Sox hits in their new stadium, both were singles off of Barney Pelty. July 1, 1920 - Future Hall of Fame catcher Ray “Cracker” Schalk was honored with his own day. The ceremony took place before a double header with the St. Louis Browns. The Sox split the two games winning the opener 3-2 in 11 innings, losing the second 4-1. Schalk officially went 1 for 4 in the twin bill with an RBI. July 1, 1962 - The Sox set the A.L. record for sacrifice flies in an inning as they got three in the fifth inning as part of a 7-6 win over the Indians at Comiskey Park. It was the second game of a double header with the Sox winning both contests. Juan Pizarro, Nellie Fox and Al Smith did the honors. The Sox were able to accomplish this feat because Indian’s outfielder Gene Green committed errors on two of the fly balls. They took the first game 5-4. July 1, 1990 - On the 80th anniversary of the opening of Comiskey Park, the Yankees Andy Hawkins threw a no-hitter. Except for one small problem....he LOST the game 4-0! The Sox got all their runs thanks to back-to-back fly ball errors courtesy of Jim Leyritz and Jesse Barfield in the eighth inning. Leyritz’s error was the back breaker as it came on a fly ball off the bat of Robin Ventura with the bases loaded with two out enabling three runs to come home. The Sox Greg Hibbard matched Hawkins pitch for pitch in the early going as he also had a no-hitter through the first five and a third innings. July 1, 1991 – Thanks to a Carlton Fisk home run in the 10th inning the Sox beat Minnesota at the Metrodome 5-4. It was the franchises 7,000th win. Bobby Thigpen, the fifth Sox pitcher of the game picked up the win.

Anderson is 4-58

This organization needs an enema starting at the top.

Grifol to DVS of the Sun-Times regarding moving Anderson down in the lineup or benching him: Anderson is 4-58... “I haven’t thought about that yet.”

Here's a question I have since it now seems according to Grifol that Kopech is going to miss his turn Sunday. Why? You've got a chance to beat a garbage team trying to lose, so they can move, yet you rest him now? He can't rest next week say against the Cardinals? Am I missing something here? Does pitching Sunday make that much difference? Grifol is as big of a moron as Hahn. He fits right in with this organization. Part of me hopes the Sox lose Sunday then Kopech loses next week just to show how stupid these people are.