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Upcoming Week - Chance to get within 2-3 GB of the Twins
Lip Man 1 replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Either that or his bout of wildness indicates he is now injured to go along with almost half of this team it seems. I mean a legit injury and not a "oh we need to give him a break so let's invent a strained eyeball or a sprained little toe." -
June 29, 1995 – With a 22-hit barrage, the White Sox ran their winning streak to seven games in a 17-13 slugfest at County Stadium over the Brewers. Robin Ventura led the way, going 5 for 6 by starting with four singles, then adding a solo shot in the top of the ninth for Chicago’s 17th run. The third baseman scored four times and drove in three. Things got heated in the middle of the game; remember, the Phil Garner Brewers and Terry Bevington White Sox detested one another. After Ray Durham hit a three-run homer in the top of the sixth to put the White Sox up, 13-6, Bill Wegman drilled Ron Karkovice in the ribs with a 3-0 pitch. Wegman was ejected immediately, and Garner got the boot for whining about it, as the benches emptied. But it only got weirder from there. In the bottom of the ninth, up 17-10, Bevington inserted absolutely wild (two walks per inning) Rob Dibble into the game in garbage time. Dibble whistled his first pitch right under pinch-hitter Pat Listach’s chin, igniting an all-out brawl and the ejections of both Dibble and Listach.
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TA to bench. Remilliard in and batting 2 nd. No brainer.
Lip Man 1 replied to hankchifan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
DVS of the Sun-Times with a story on Anderson this afternoon. The numbers are, to say the least, ugly: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/6/29/23778671/white-sox-tim-anderson-working-his-tail-off-to-break-awful-slump -
And that's a Lance Lynn Gut Check White Sox Winner!
Lip Man 1 replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Nice that the offense bailed out Lynn. -
I didn't know Scooter had a family connection to Getz. I know his daughter married Gordon Beckham.
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August 4, 2000 - Catcher Carlton Fisk was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Even though Fisk played more games and for more years with the White Sox, he went in wearing the colors of the Red Sox. Fisk explained to the Chicago media, that his choice in no way reflected any animosity towards White Sox fans but was based in part on his treatment by the organization and ownership over the years.
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I'm guessing JR will no longer be running the team by then.
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He went to Michigan just like Hahn.
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Sox @ Halos - 838PM (Giolito vs. Barria)
Lip Man 1 replied to ChiSox59's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Between 1963 and 1967 the Sox led the league in ERA in four of the five seasons barely missing out in the one year they didn't. Those teams didn't have a lot of power but they could pitch, caught the ball and knew fundamentals like the backs of their hands. That's how they won 94,98,95,83 and 89 games. Sure wish we had that type of play today. -
Here's another quote that makes you do a double take: “Eddie and I never discussed how to talk to reporters. We’ve just been ourselves. I always though Jack Kennedy was the kind of person I looked up to in that regard. He always gave the media a fair shake and understood you guys have a job to do. Without responsible people willing to divulge some accurate information, it’s hard to do it right. It was a much better approach then Nixon, who figured the media, was his enemy. Doing it Kennedy’s way just makes a lot more sense to me. After all, nobody can buy the kind of advertising Chicago teams get. What other line of work finds newspapers assigning people to follow you around and write about how the business is doing every day? At Balcor, we have to hire a public relations firm to get our names in the paper. When baseball teams get that for free, it makes sense to cooperate.” – Jerry Reinsdorf to Bob Logan. From the book ‘Miracle On 35th Street.’ Pg. 154. Published 1983.
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I agree with you that he wants to win his way and have stated that for many years but he just recently said about a month ago that not finishing first doesn't mean you had a bad season: "Sports is a business of failure but the fact that you finish second or third or fourth it doesn’t mean you had a bad year."- jerry Reinsdorf May 1, 2023.
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June 28, 1941 - White Sox infielder Don Kolloway became the only White Sox player to steal second, third and home in the same inning. Kolloway pulled this off in Cleveland as part of a 6-4 Sox win. His base-stealing feat took place in the ninth inning. He also homered twice — his first two career Major League home runs — and is the only Major Leaguer in history to have two homers and four steals in a game. He also scored four times in the afternoon contest. June 28, 1973 - The ill fortunes of the team really came into focus, as by the time the summer ended, a team that was in first place for two months, wound up placing 38 names on the injured list. Among the key injuries were Ken Henderson tearing up his knee sliding into home plate, Bill Melton suffering a groin injury, Carlos May had a bad hamstring, Brian Downing wrenched his knee on his first Major League play and was lost until August diving to catch a foul pop up and Pat Kelly having a bad back. But the most damming injury occurred in Anaheim on the day listed above with the Sox a game out of first place. Dick Allen suffered a broken leg when Mike Epstein crashed into him on a play at first. Allen was stretching to grab a wild throw from third baseman Bill Melton in the sixth inning of a game the Sox would win 2-0. Here’s where it really got strange.....the injury took place just a little over 10 years after Sox first baseman Joe Cunningham suffered a broken collarbone against the same team in Southern California, on the same type of play (a wild throw) with the Sox in first place! June 28, 1993 - In the first of what would become a series of major public relations disasters, the White Sox released Carlton Fisk on the road in Cleveland. Fisk accompanied the team to Ohio only to be told of his release before the game. No question, Fisk was finished as a player, but the fans and media were outraged at the way the Sox handled the situation. In fact, the Sox sent faxes to the media announcing the move, not even having the courtesy to hold a press conference. Fisk, the future Hall of Famer, had to say his goodbyes to his former teammates from the stands at Municipal Stadium during that evening’s game before returning to Chicago
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I'll believe the White Sox are losing money when they open their books and let them be examined by an accounting specialist. MLB is now a 10 billion dollar a year industry, the income being generated by domestic and international sources has never been higher. That's part of the issue...as long as JR is sound financially regardless of the won/loss record why should he even care anymore...especially at his age.
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A lot of fans are feeling the exact same way, I'm basically just watching occasionally and checking box scores. I've been a die-hard fan for 63 seasons now and i never thought I'd get apathetic about the franchise but that is now coming to pass. White Sox fans are now in hell because of Jerry Reinsdorf.
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Just FYI. The White Sox have now played 81 games...half the season. They have scored three runs or less in 43 of the 81 games...53% They have scored three runs or less in seven of their last 11 games. Total embarrassment and Grifol continues to make decisions that leave you scratching your head. This guy is completely outmatched on the field (maybe we should ask Jerry about it! LOL)
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Kopech seven walks, another garbage effort by the offense adds up to another Sox loss. Now 13 under. Complete embarrassment.
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With this season going down the tubes would they dare cancel Sox fest again? Frankly I wouldn't put it past them.
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A GM's popularity in large part depends on how successful the franchise is and how they interact with the media (which by proxy the fans get a better understanding of the person.) Hahn gets an F on both counts.
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And don't forget the Sox took him to arbitration over a 50 thousand dollar difference. Giolito couldn't believe it and his posts made you think it really bothered him.
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While I get the (deserved) reservations regarding this front office making deals and being in charge of another rebuild (although you can bet money the Sox won't call it that) you simply have to do it. This current group for whatever reason or reasons simply hasn't gotten it done. Trying to run it back with the same bunch is insane...there is enough of a track record now to say that the odds of something dramatically changing are pretty small.
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June 27, 1910 – The White Sox lost the final game played at their original ballpark, South Side Park III (39th Street Grounds). Cleveland knocked them off, 7-2, in front of just 4,300 fans. Fred Olmstead started the last game for the Sox but only lasted one inning giving up four runs. In fact the Sox didn’t score at all until the last inning in the original park getting two home in the ninth. Just four days later, the White Sox returned home and unveiled “The Baseball Palace of the World,” Comiskey Park. They lost that game as well, 2-0, to the St. Louis Browns, in front of 24,900 fans. June 27, 1922 - Catcher and future Hall of Famer, Ray “Cracker” Schalk became the first White Sox player to hit for the cycle when he did it against the Tigers in Detroit at Navin Field. The Sox would win 9-5 with Ray going 4 for 4 with two runs and two RBI’s. The hits were a home run in the third, triple in the fourth, single in the seventh and double in the ninth inning in that order. June 27, 1958 - He came so close to perfection. Sox left hander Billy Pierce fired four one-hitters in his brilliant career, but he never came closer than on this night to baseball immortality. With two out in the ninth inning, Pierce lost a perfect game as the Senators Ed Fitz Gerald, a pinch hitter, doubled down the first base line on the first pitch thrown. The hit was fair by a foot off a low outside breaking ball. The crowd at Comiskey Park stared in disbelief. The Sox won 3-0 but Pierce never came closer to pitching the ultimate masterpiece. On the night the Senators only hit six balls out of the infield. Pierce struck out nine and only went to a three-ball count on two hitters. The game took 1:46 to play and was Billy’s third straight shutout. Another historical oddity… Fitz Gerald’s grandfather was an important businessman in Milwaukee, including the shipping industry. Years later a ship would be named after him. The name of the ship? The Edmund Fitz Gerald. (Cue the song from Gordon Lightfoot!) June 27, 1967 - It was one of the most bizarre individual plays in White Sox history. The Sox were at Baltimore and in the last of the fourth inning of a scoreless game the O’s Frank Robinson slid hard into second baseman Al Weis trying to break up a potential double play on a ball hit by Brooks Robinson. Robinson’s head slammed into Weis’s knee knocking him out. The next day he woke up with double vision. Weis meanwhile had his knee torn up and his season ended because of the contact. While both players were lying on the ground Sox right fielder Ken Berry noticed that time had never been called and Frank wasn’t on the base! He ran in, picked up the baseball and tagged him with it. Second base umpire Nestor Chylak called Robinson out. Officially it went into the books as a force out; third to second to first to right field. The Sox behind Joe Horlen would win the game 5-0. June 27, 2004 - The first of the on-field steps that would eventually lead to a World Series title took place on this day as the Sox acquired starting pitcher Freddy Garcia from the Mariners for catcher Miguel Olivo and outfielder Jeremy Reed. Some fans anguished over the loss of five tool prospect Reed, but no one was complaining after Garcia helped close out the Astros the following October to clinch the first championship in 88 seasons. Freddy would go on to win 55 games for the Sox in two different stints. In each of his three full years with the team, 2005, 2006 and 2010 he’d win at least 12 games.
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It's called being given a huge mega-contract before proving anything much like Moncada et al.
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June 26, 1983 - Sox slugger Greg “The Bull” Luzinski belted the first of his three rooftop home runs at Comiskey Park, becoming the first player to ever hit that many in a single season. Luzinski powered a pitch from the Twins Brian Oelkers over the roof in left center field. The shot came in the third inning of a game the Sox would win 9-7. It was a two-run home run scoring Tom Paciorek. June 26, 1986 - It was the best trade in the short career of G.M. Ken “Hawk” Harrelson. Harrelson sent catcher Scott Bradley to the Mariners for outfielder Ivan Calderon. Calderon would hit 28 home runs in 1987 and would be a big part offensively and defensively for the Sox in their spectacular 1990 campaign. He’d lead the team that year with 74 RBI’s as the Sox stunned baseball by winning 94 games. He’d then be traded as part of the Tim Raines deal in December 1990 by G.M. Ron Schueler before coming back for nine games late in the 1993 season. To make room for him the Sox traded pitcher Donn Pall. June 26, 2010 - The Sox beat the Cubs 3-2 to run their winning streak to 11 games in a row. The streak started on June 15 and saw the Sox blitz National League clubs during the interleague portion of the schedule. They took three from Pittsburgh, three from Washington, three from Atlanta and two from the Cubs. During the streak they outscored opponents 51-24 with three shutouts. It was the 12th time in franchise history the Sox had a double-digit win streak and the first since they won 10 in a row in 1976. Ironically in that 1976 season they also had a double-digit losing streak!