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I agree with this. I was on a podcast yesterday where I went into a deep dive in a lot of these areas if you are interested: https://www.southsidesox.com/2023/6/22/23770543/sox-populi-white-sox-podcast-150-no-historical-precedent

Just to be clear none of what I quoted came from me, these are direct quotes from others who know the organization.

Still remember when Kenny confronted Rauch for leaving a game early after he was pulled and then cut him. I think he did have some decent to good seasons elsewhere if I recall right.

From what sources told me about Hahn this past off season which I printed in a story in November: “The issue with Rick is he’s got all these guys around him like Jeremy Haber (Author’s Note: Haber is the Assistant General Manager), friends from Michigan or someplace and they aren’t baseball guys. They didn’t play the game and have no real idea of what it takes. D.J. (Author’s Note: Sox broadcaster Darrin Jackson) and others have said the same thing.” “I thought Hahn was prepared to do well, his last few years as assistant G.M. he was out on the road, watching guys, scouting, trusting what he saw. Then when he became G.M. he started getting guys like J.B. Schuck.” “Rick won’t leave in part because his wife doesn’t want to leave the area unless it is for a job in California where she’s from.” “Hahn actually is in charge, more than people think, although Kenny has input and of course JR has the final say.” “Hahn put his foot down with Renteria, he wanted his manager to start doing what he (Hahn) asked.” “Hahn is a go-along, get along type of guy, I don’t want to say he was dour this past season but there was a defensiveness to him that you could see especially when Tony was mentioned.” “I’ll use a political term to describe Rick, he’s a ‘filibusterer.’ When Theo Epstein was running the Cubs everything he said meant something, if you went back to reread what he said you could read between the lines and figure out what he was saying. With Rick you heard what he said but then when you went back and reread his comments you realized he said less than you thought he did when he first spoke.” “In 2016 when the rebuild started I thought he did the right thing and he deserved credit for that. I also thought at the time that giving out those long-term deals was good. No one could have foreseen how those contracts impacted those guys and their effort. But it was clear when Tony LaRussa was hired that Rick really is powerless. I just don’t have a lot of faith that he can get this done. And words matter, when he talked about “Multiple championships” and “Call me after the parade”…if you are going to be arrogant like that you need to deliver and he hasn’t.”

June 23, 1919 – White Sox center fielder Oscar “Happy” Felsch tied a record originally set in 1904 when he recorded 12 chances in a nine-inning game. He had 11 putouts and one assist in the 3-2 loss to Cleveland at Comiskey Park. That record has never been matched. June 23, 1956 – It was first of the two great fights on the field between Yankee and White Sox players; almost one year later, June 13, 1957, the second one took place. In this one Bob Grim (the late uncle to former Sox Director of Business Development and Broadcasting Bob Grim) threw one high and tight to Sox outfielder Dave Philley in the home half of the sixth inning. The ball glanced off Philley’s shoulder and bounced into his batting helmet knocking it off. Philley charged the mound as the benches and bullpens emptied. Both players swung at each other, as the rest of the teams held each other back. Order was restored after about 20 minutes. Philley was tossed from the game. Grim was allowed to stay in, but perhaps shaken; he was tagged for two runs...driven in by Sherm Lollar and Luis Aparicio, the only runs on the day in the Sox 2-0 win. June 23, 1958 - The Sox purchased the contract of pitcher Omar “Turk” Lown from the Reds. Lown and teammate Gerry Staley, also acquired via the purchase route in 1956, gave the Sox one of the top bullpens in baseball during the late 1950's/early 1960's. They were especially effective during the 1959 championship season. That year Lown would go 9-2 with a 2.89 ERA and 15 saves. Staley also had 15 saves that year and those two led the league in that category. Lown’s best pitch was a blazing fastball that was among the best in baseball. The first time he faced both Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams he threw nothing but fastballs and struck them both out on three pitches. June 23, 1963 - Sox catcher J.C. Martin set an American League record by being involved in three double plays in a 2-0 loss at Cleveland. Martin had two strike out/throw out double plays and was also in the middle of a third base to catcher to first base one. His record would later be tied by another Sox catcher, Ed Hermann. And in both cases the Sox would lose the game!

I don't believe any active player can own any type of percentage in a team. When they retire, of course, that's different.

The system basically is going to supply very little if anything. They won't commit to spending big money to bring in a bunch of free agents. Unless ownership changes the chances of success in the next few years is very small.

June 22, 1913 – Behind “Big” Ed Walsh’s complete game shutout, the Sox beat the St. Louis Browns 2-0 in the second game of a double header at Comiskey Park. It was the team’s 1,000th victory. Outfielder John “Shano” Collins drove in both runs for the Sox that afternoon as they got a split on the day. June 22, 1938 - Sox outfielder Hank Steinbacher became the second player in franchise history to rap out six hits in a game. Steinbacher went 6 for 6 with two RBI’s and three runs scored in the Sox 16-3 win over the Senators at Comiskey Park. He had five singles and a double raising his average to .337, he finished the season at .331 June 22, 1958 - Ed Walsh Day was celebrated at Comiskey Park. The Sox honored their Hall of Fame pitcher who recorded 195 wins with a ceremony with the proceeds going to help pay his medical bills. Urban “Red” Faber and Ted Lyons were among those who attended. Less than a year later, the man who won 40 games in 1908 was dead of cancer. June 22, 1983 - Noted team prankster, pitcher Jerry Koosman, somehow ‘discovered’ Gaylord Perry’s false teeth on the mound at Comiskey Park during a game against the Mariners. He offered to return them but Perry declined. The Sox won the game 6-3. June 22, 1993 - On "Carlton Fisk Night", Fisk set the Major League record for games caught at 2,226. He broke the old record held by Bob Boone. Teammates surrounded Fisk on the field for pre-game ceremonies and presented him with a motorcycle that they chipped in and bought for him. Each player donated $500 dollars. The cycle was driven to home plate by “Bo” Jackson. The Sox would beat the Rangers 3-2 on a game winning single in the ninth inning by Lance Johnson with Donn Pall getting the win in relief. Fisk went 0-2 in the game. June 22, 2010 – Now this you don’t see every day. The Sox were hosting the Braves in a game they’d win 9-6. With two outs in the fourth inning, and the Sox ahead 6-3, Alex Ríos hit a hard ground ball that bounced up into third baseman Brooks Conrad’s chest. The ball somehow went inside his jersey where it remained. Conrad felt the ball hit his chest but then couldn’t find it. It went as an infield single. Paul Konerko then singled, and Carlos Quentin homered to make the jersey mishap cost the Braves.

This isn't supporting, defending or condemning TLR, JR, Einhorn or anyone. Simply stating a fact. AT THE TIME the stretch from 1981-1985 was the best since the Sox Golden Era from 1951-1967. That's what the numbers say.

Don't forget in 1970 the White Sox won 56 games...in 1971 they won 79 games. +23 In 1989 the Sox won 69 games...in 1990 they won 94 games. +25

Only possibility of this happening would be if JR is no longer running the franchise and even then it's a very slim possibility.

As befitting a team that doesn't draw walks nor hit for a high average nor has a high on-base percentage... 30 of the last 41 White Sox home runs have been solo blasts.

Grifol on Moncada to DVS of the Sun-Times: " It could be 10 days, it could be two weeks. I don't have an answer." (Moncada isn't expected back until after the All-Star break...if then.) Other injury news: Grandal scratched from Wednesday's game (sore knee), Crochet got a cortisone shot isn't expected back for two or three weeks and Anderson hasn't played since the weekend in the field but they still haven't put him on the IL. What an operation...?

Meanwhile Anderson STILL hasn't played and they STILL haven't put him on the IL! ?????

AT THE TIME (1986) of the firing the period from 1981-1985 was the best stretch since the Golden Era. Since after 1967 the Sox only posted winning years in 1972 and 1977. Hence what I wrote.

I can't believe the MLBPA hasn't looked into this matter already.

June 21, 1942 - Sox pitcher and future Hall of Famer Ted Lyons won his 250th career game beating the Red Sox 6-5. That season Lyons only pitched on Sunday’s and posted this incredible statistic. In his 20 starts that year he completed all 20 games! He went 14-6 with an ERA of 2.10 which led the American League. At the end of the season Lyons joined the Marines and served four years during World War II. June 21, 1956 - It was either a case of great pitching, or terrible hitting, as the Sox beat the Orioles 1-0 in a game that took just 2:12. Both Baltimore starter Connie Johnson, who used to pitch for the Sox, and the Sox Jack Harshman each allowed the opposition only one hit. The Sox scored their run in the first inning when “Jungle” Jim Rivera walked, stole second and scored on a double by Nellie Fox. The Orioles only hit came in the seventh inning, a double off the bat of Gus Triandos. June 21, 1964 - The Sox dropped their ninth straight game on the season to the Yankees 2-1 in 17 innings. It allowed New York to sweep the twin bill with the Sox scoring only one run on the day in 26 innings. This one really hurt because New York got the winning run home thanks to an error by infielder Al Weis. The Sox would lose another one to the Yanks the next day running the streak to 10 in a row, before finally winning against them in August with a four-game series sweep. Those losses were very costly since in 1964 the Sox ended the year...one game, behind the Yankees. June 21, 1973 - Sox pitcher Stan Bahnsen, a 21-game winner in 1972, threw one of the strangest shutouts in baseball history. Bahnsen beat the A’s 2-0 at Comiskey Park. He allowed 12 hits and a walk in the process. The A’s left 10 men on base. It was two off the record for most hits allowed in a shutout.

More White Sox specialty: dumpster diving other teams cast off's. Hahn has made a habit of this because the minor league system is so awful.

Grifol was quoted as saying this is a "precautionary" move by the White Sox that he's only sore and they are taking it safe since he had TJS. If you believe that I've got a bridge in NYC I can sell you.

9th time this year the Sox trailed in the 7th inning or later and won the game.

Because he's a "house" organ.

Anderson not playing but still not put on the IL ?

September 15, 1990 - Owner Jerry Reinsdorf fired G.M. Larry Himes citing ‘personality differences.’ Himes drafted and signed Sox future stars like Frank Thomas, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura and Alex Fernandez. During the press conference announcing the hiring of Ron Schueler as new G.M., Reinsdorf issued his famous ‘Point A to point B to point C’ comment. Later in a rare radio appearance he was candid on the subject to host Chet Coppock. “The fact is Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.”

No the Cubs still have their beat writer.

And when it does happen (as well it should) Hahn will blame everything but himself and the incompetent front office.