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Sun-Time story said he was seen with his right hand in a brace. No other details as to how it happened or what caused it or if he was dealing with this for awhile.

Exactly...and that would be among the worst possible scenarios. Plus more arrogance from Rick and company about how they "told all of us." It's really possible some team will win this division and make the playoffs WITH A LOSING REGULAR SEASON RECORD. It would be the butt of jokes for a very long time especially when said team got hammered in the playoffs. Honestly in that situation I would hope the Sox wouldn't "win" anything.

https://www.southsidesox.com/2023/5/21/23729824/white-sox-hey-rick-hahn-is-this-what-you-wanted

Well they'll be down a starting pitcher for a game or two at least. We'll see how Grifol does with an "opener" since the Sox don't have any depth in this area. Thanks Rick!

May 21, 1905 - White Sox pitcher Frank Smith fired a one-hitter in beating the Senators 2-1 at South Side Park. Washington scored their only run and got their only hit in the first inning as Smith walked former teammate Charlie Jones to open the game then after an out, he was driven home on a single by Jake Stahl. Smith helped his own cause in the fifth inning by hitting a double then when he was on third base came home on a bobbled ground ball resulting in an error. It was the decisive run in the game. Washington made three errors on the afternoon with the game played in front of over 25-thousand fans. May 21, 2009 - The White Sox tied the team record for worst defeat based on run difference in their history, when they were annihilated 20-1 by the Twins at U.S. Cellular Field. The 19-run difference was first set on May 10, 2002 in Anaheim. Bartolo Colon, Lance Broadway and Jimmy Gobble gave up all the runs. Colon at least had something of an excuse…of the eight runs he allowed, seven were unearned!

From the Sun-Times story today (Saturday): "Jake Burger has never played in the Sox outfield, but Grifol said that’s something the team has talked about a “little bit.” One concern Grifol acknowledged is Burger’s injury history, including a ruptured achilles tendon he suffered in 2018." Nothing surprises me anymore.

I was at that game too.

Much like Alexei Ramirez (whom one of the Sox broadcasters told me was "the dumbest shortstop in the league...) Anderson seems to lose focus and concentration far to often. He seems to have other things on his mind outside of baseball, his off the field antics were an embarrassment, he has lost all his power it seems, he can't stay healthy and has had numerous issues/suspension after interactions with umpires and fans. Other that that Mrs. Lincoln how did you like the play? If this is the "face of the franchise" no wonder the Sox are in a deep hole. Just my opinion.

They should be. They are starting their rebuild. The Sox meanwhile are supposedly in the middle of a contention window. Again, I'll take the win but after the first inning they were basically shut down for four innings by a pitcher who was 0-7 with an ERA of over seven.

May 20, 1920 – At Griffith Stadium in Washington on this afternoon the White Sox would set the team record for the most runs ever scored in an extra inning. In the 16th inning they were able to score eight times to beat the Senators 13-5. The Senators made nine errors on the day leading to nine unearned runs. Sox Hall of Fame pitcher Urban “Red” Faber worked all 16 innings allowing 18 hits, three earned runs and faced 64 batters! May 20, 1973 - A Sunday afternoon bat day double header with the Twins brought the largest crowd out to ever see a game in the original Comiskey Park. 55,555 packed into the stadium filling every single inch of it, including standing on the catwalks that connected the left and right field bleachers with the center field scoreboard area. To his dying day, two-time White Sox owner Bill Veeck refused to believe that figure was accurate, he thought it was too low. The Sox split the pair of games that afternoon. May 20, 2006 – The Cubs/Sox rivalry never got hotter than on this day at U.S. Cellular Field when Cubs catcher Michael Barrett sucker punched the Sox A.J. Pierzynski which started a brawl around home plate. The game was the national telecast on the Fox Network. In the second inning Brian Anderson hit a fly to left field. A.J. tagged up, ran over Barrett who was blocking the plate, then went back and slapped his hand on home plate. Barrett took exception and punched Pierzynski on the side of his jaw. The punch didn’t faze A.J. but both benches cleared. As a result, Barrett, A.J., Anderson and John Mabry were ejected. The Sox, behind Freddy Garcia, won the game 7-0. Tadahito Iguchi belted two home runs, one a grand slam and drove in six RBI’s on the day.

https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/cleveland-guardians-tom-hamilton-blasts-tim-anderson-white-sox.html

Speaking of TA he's quoted in this story tonight in the Sun-Times. According to the writer he was a mite "testy" when he was asked about the error yesterday (he wasn't available to talk to the media after that game. Guess he was pulling a Hahn who STILL hasn't spoken to the media on this homestand. LOL) https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/5/19/23730732/liam-hendriks-cant-come-back-soon-enough-for-sox

Tremendous job by Kopech. As far as the offense against a pitcher with an ERA of over five? Total garbage.

May 19, 1908 – White Sox pitcher Guy “Doc” White tossed his fifth one-hitter and beat Washington 2-0. The only hit he allowed came off the bat of outfielder Bob Ganley. White helped his own cause with an RBI single scoring catcher Billy Sullivan. White faced only 28 hitters on the day, one over the minimum. May 19, 1914 – White Sox pitcher Ed Cicotte fired his first one-hitter beating the Athletics 3-0 at Shibe Park. Cicotte took a no-hitter into the eighth inning before the A’s John “Stuffy” McInnis singled to left field with one out. He was the A’s only base runner on the afternoon. May 19, 1959 – White Sox broadcaster Bob Elson called Memorial Stadium in Baltimore the ‘chamber of horrors’ because of the strange, weird and bizarre events that always seemed to take place when the White Sox were in town. On this night another one of those incidents took place as the O’s beat the Sox and Billy Pierce 2-1. In the second inning of a scoreless game and with Billy Gardner on first, Baltimore pitcher Billy O’Dell sliced a drive down the right field line. The ball hit the foul line-the only one in the Major Leagues made out of wood and bounced over the head of charging right fielder Al Smith. The ball rolled along the cinder warning track towards the right field corner. By the time it was retrieved Gardner scored easily and O’Dell had himself possibly the most unusual inside the park home run ever. May 19, 1963 - Sox starter Ray Herbert’s consecutive scoreless inning streak ended controversially in (where else?) Baltimore. Herbert, a 20-game winner in 1962, had thrown 38 straight scoreless innings when he faced the Orioles Johnny Orsino in the third inning. Orsino then hit what appeared to be a home run to left field...or did he? Both manager Al Lopez and outfielder Dave Nicholson argued that the ball Orsino hit passed between the top of the wall and an iron railing mounted on top of it with support posts to help keep fans from falling over on to the field of play. By going through the gap, it should have been ruled a ground rule double. They lost the argument; Herbert lost his scoreless streak but the Sox won the game 4-3 in 10 innings to get a double header split. May 19, 1996 - In a 14-3 clubbing of the Tigers in Detroit, Sox players Darren Lewis and Robin Ventura hit grand slams. The home runs came in the third and ninth innings. Both had four RBI’s in the game. May 19, 2004 - The 2004 season which had started off well for the White Sox, took a dramatic turn as on a short pop up to right field in Cleveland, infielder Willie Harris slammed his shoulder into outfielder Magglio Ordonez’s knee. Ordonez would go on the injured list, come back and play a few games, then miss the rest of the season. Eventually he’d go to Europe for an operation and leave the Sox as a free agent signing with Detroit. The Sox won the game 15-3 but losing Ordonez was huge.

I feel your pain. Just hope to live long enough to see different ownership and take my chances.

It's called fundamentals...an unknown word to this organization, and like with the front office there is no accountability for being "baseball-stupid."

From my story: Looking at the Giants; while they didn’t re-sign Alvarez or Hernandez and Darwin retired they did get additional draft picks when the first two signed with Tampa Bay. More importantly though the organization showed their players, and their fans they were serious about contending and winning regardless of risk. It made San Francisco look like an up and coming organization… that according to Jeff Kent. San Francisco did make the playoffs in 1997 losing to the eventual World Series champion Marlins, they just missed the post season in 1998 losing to the Cubs in a one game playoff, made the playoffs again in 1999 losing to the Mets then made it to the World Series in 2002 losing in seven games to the Angels. Then of course they went on their historic run in the 2010’s winning the World Series three times. Also having to be factored in was the positive publicity the trade generated in 1997 and the subsequent success of the franchise finally got the city and the state to give the go ahead on a new stadium to replace Candlestick Park. Then owner Peter McGowan pledged his own money to help get the stadium built and it became one of the showcase stadiums in the big leagues. This after years of failed attempts by multiple Giants owners to get a new stadium built.

I think mentally he has one foot out the door already.

After the All-Star break Hoyt, Dotson and Bannister went 42-5. That's right...42-5. Not only were those guys unbeatable, they didn't miss starts or have inning limitations. Those were the days.

You are correct.

The Sox have scored three runs or less in 25 of the 45 games played. 55% of all games. That's what happens when you have a few automatic outs in the lineup to go along with a bunch of undisciplined free swingers.

I did a detailed story on the 25th anniversary of the White Flag Trade. The impact both locally and nationally was catastrophic to the Sox and it reflected in attendance for a few years afterwards including 2000. As far as the impact the players acquired made, here you go: There’s a Hole in the Toe of My White Sox. The “White Flag Trade” Revisited…25 Years…and Counting Mike Caruso: Had a brilliant 1998 finishing third in the Rookie of the Year voting. He hit .306 with 22 stolen bases and 55 RBI’s. He legged out numerous infield hits. Defensively he made 35 errors which led the league and raised some questions about his ability to do small things correctly on the field. 1999 was a mixed year. Caruso’s batting average dropped to .250 but he recorded 35 infield hits and was the hardest player to strike out in the league. His errors dropped to 24 and he hit a game winning two run home run to beat the Cubs on June 13 but his attitude was becoming an issue. Manager Jerry Manuel felt he was out of shape and even questioned his thinking ability in the field. By 2000 Caruso was out of the starting line up in favor of Jose Valentin. The Sox tried trading him to Seattle, a deal which was overturned because Caruso was injured at the time, before releasing him. Lorenzo Barcelo: Suffered extensive injuries to his pitching arm which caused him to miss most of both the 1998 and 1999 minor league seasons. He was called up to the Sox in July 2000, going 4-2 with a 3.69 ERA in 22 games. In 2001 Barcelo tore his rotator cuff and again missed most of the season. He started 2002 with the Sox but was soon sent back to triple A where he suffered yet another arm injury which finished his career. Bob Howry: In 1998 Howry led all A.L. rookies with nine saves along with a 3.15 ERA in 44 games. In 1999 he appeared in 69 games saving 28, winning five and posting a 3.59 ERA. 2000 saw his role change to a set up man and he was effective again with seven saves, two wins and a 3.17 ERA. 2001 though saw a drop in velocity and his ERA shot up to 4.69. In 2002 he was hammered in spring training and was traded to Boston at the deadline. He pitched for another nine years with four other teams. As the years went by Howry was often a vocal critic of the Sox organization and their fan base. Keith Foulke: Foulke turned out to be the savior of the deal after the collapse of Caruso and the injuries to Barcelo. He had 34 saves in 2000 and 42 in 2001. He possessed a change up that was almost unhittable when he was going well. In 2002 however, manager Jerry Manuel seemed to lose faith in him after a series of blown save chances and because he would become a free agent after the 2003 season G.M. Kenny Williams traded him to Oakland in the ill fated Billy Koch deal. Foulke immediately regained his old form leading the A.L. with 43 saves and a 2.03 ERA. Signed by the Red Sox as a free agent he led them to a World Series title in 2004. Ken Vining got into eight games for the Sox in 2001 pitching a little over six innings with an ERA of almost 18 while Brian Manning never appeared in the Major Leagues. Overall the players the Sox got back had some impact particularly in the 2000 season when they won the Central Division but none of them reached the ceiling that Reinsdorf talked about, at least not when they were in the organization. For various reasons, injuries, bad luck, bad attitudes, none of the players acquired in the deal ever even made the All-Star team while in a Sox uniform.

May 18, 1957 – Historically if it was Baltimore, it usually meant strange things for the White Sox. Case in point, on this night the Sox had to catch a train to Boston and the Orioles agreed to end the game at 10:20 their time regardless of the outcome. The Sox trailed 3-0 going into the seventh inning when they scored four runs. That half inning was strange in itself because the Sox used five pinch hitters and two pinch runners in it! The Sox were still leading 4-3 in the ninth inning. Paul LaPalme was brought in to protect the lead. With 30 seconds remaining until curfew, he elected to pitch to Dick Williams. League rules did not allow for a suspended game under these circumstances so the Sox could have legally stalled the final seconds away. Unfortunately, they didn’t. LaPalme threw...Williams swung...home run. Tie game... make that a suspended tie game which had to be replayed from the start later in the season. May 18, 1983 - Still another bizarre moment in Baltimore. On this night Sox pitcher Rich Dotson tossed a complete game one-hitter. Only he lost it 1-0! His only mistake came when “Disco” Danny Ford lofted a pitch down the right field line at Memorial Stadium that fell into the first row of seats. The ‘blast’ went about 312 feet, an out in most other parks. The hit came in the eighth inning. Dotson wasn’t sharp overall, allowing seven walks but he kept getting out of trouble until Ford connected.

From the MLB.com web site: American League Central: White Sox-Tigers Current: Tigers up 4 1/2 games Projected Standings: White Sox up 1 First off, yes, we know: These are hardly the top two teams in this division. But we’re focusing on them for two reasons. First, the projections are incredibly high on the Twins, giving them an eight-game cushion on the Guardians and a double-digit-game cushion on both of these teams. The real reason, though, is how different the expectations were for both the Tigers and the White Sox coming into this season. The White Sox were thought, with a new manager, to be legitimate AL Central contenders; the Tigers were just considered fortunate to have 2022 finally be over. But the Tigers have been plucky in the early going, spending most of the season in second place. The White Sox? The White Sox have not been plucky, let’s say that. If the Tigers are in a position to finish higher than the White Sox -- a team that is farther along its hypothetical “contention window” than their Michigan counterparts -- that would say something very clear and fascinating about where this division is standing moving forward. But the tell here is that even with the White Sox’s supposed “surge” to catch up with the Tigers, they’re still projected for 74 wins. If the White Sox are running at that pace come the Trade Deadline, it’s fair to presume that they will look a lot different after Aug. 1 than they would before -- a lot worse. The Tigers probably aren’t a .463 team. But they sure look like the third-place team in this division. That is progress, anyway. Believe the projections? No They also have another story with 10 players generating real trade interest. The White Sox have four of the 10, Anderson, Cease, Grandal and Giolito.

Criminal they way they handled this much like Dunning, Rodon in the past. Basically they have NO depth now at starting pitching. Only Rick Hahn. Honest question, can he really be that dense and stupid as a GM?